Do rings of regeneration stack with a unit's natural regen?

[Alexandus]

Do rings of regeneration stack with a unit's natural regen?

[terve886]

Yes

[Cruxador]

Regeneration bless does too. Put all three on hydras for 24 HP a turn!
Well, the ring requires a GoR so it's not actually worth it, but still.

[wilson.max]

Couldn't you just cast Regeneration on the hydra instead of using the ring? I know that Personal Regeneration stacks with regen bless, and I believe the Regeneration spell does too.

Of course, Hydra is actually a bad chassis for this tactic because it has low Prot and lowish HP. Abominations would be better, and an Ironskinned Wyrm pretender would be close to the best.

[jojeck]

In Dom4 the spells Personal Regeneration, Regeneration, and Mass Regeneration did not stack as they all apply the same spell type ID but just use different targetting. I'm guessing that is how it works in Dom 5 too. You could stack multiple items though as long as there were no duplicates.

[wilson.max]

Yeah, but stacking Regeneration spell + Personal Regeneration isn't what is under discussion here.

Personal Regeneration stacks with Regeneration bless and I think also with inherent regeneration. So presumably Regeneration spell should also stack with Regeneration bless and inherent regeneration, since it is the same spell effect as Personal Regeneration. Are we agreed on that point?

[Cruxador]

The abomination isn't sacred. On wyrm, you could have the natural regen, the bless, the spell, and the ring, giving 40% regen for 64 HP per turn in neutral dominion. If we're talking about ironskin, you could also give it the +protection bless, which would make it pretty much entirely unkillable without the use of magic. And the regen would make it so that only very strong magic (or, y'know, soul slay) is relevant. Taking a MR bless is going to tax your scales even further, but you could consider drain for the purposes of boosting MR. You can equip your pretender SC with an antimagic amulet and a skullcap too, which probably helps more. Takes a lot of scales to be sure, but might be worth playing around with in singleplayer.

Not a lot of nations can actually take the wyrm though, can they?

[wilson.max]

Abominations aren't sacred, correct, but they have high HP (264?) and natural regen, so they're just one spell away from getting 50+ HP of regen per round. (Which, it must be admitted, won't necessarily save them unless you also make them Ethereal or Ironskinned or something at the same time.) That's better than 26ish HP per round on a Hydra, lack of bless notwithstanding.

On Wyrm, I'm not sure that the spell would stack with the ring. It's worth testing I suppose.

Phoenix Pyre + high MR is my favorite counter to Soul Slay.

[Cruxador]

Originally posted by wilson.max:

Phoenix Pyre + high MR is my favorite counter to Soul Slay.

It's going to be tough to get phoenix pyre on the wyrm, though. And then you'll want reinvigoration.

[Nombrilist]

If you're going to invoke something as high up as an Abomination, go with Daughter of Typhoon + bless + ring + Lychantropos Amulet (at size 6 she's too big to turn skinshifter) for 88hp/round (110 if you have a mage to add a regen spell) and berserking. Or just break out royalty and artifacts. Item effects all stack so long as the items aren't duplicates.

[wilson.max]

Originally posted by Cruxador:

Originally posted by wilson.max:

Phoenix Pyre + high MR is my favorite counter to Soul Slay.

It's going to be tough to get phoenix pyre on the wyrm, though. And then you'll want reinvigoration.

I didn't realize we were concerned with cost-effectiveness in this thread. I thought we were just spitballing extreme ideas for fun.

If you're not concerned with cost-effectiveness you can just Empower the worm with 50 fire gems, and then give him another fire gem per battle. Summon Earthpower covers reinvigoration, although it's less important in Dom5 anyway.

If you are concerned with cost-effectiveness then we should be discussing something other than regeneration rate. Not taking damage is always better than taking damage and then regenerating it, because of afflictions.

[onomastikon]

Sorry for the necro but this thread comes closest to my question without starting a new one: According to the info here, personal regen spell *or* regen spell from a friendly cast *and* ring of regen *and* regen bless *and* native inherent regen stacks (yes?).
I have an N7 Dragon as a pretender with a regeneration bless. He is scripted to cast personal regen and attack rear. In recent battle he partook with small friendly squad to bless, but he seems only to get 10% regen, not 20%, without ring. I don't understand and am grasping for an explanation. I see 3 candles in the province the battle took place, but I guess it is possible that the dominion was neutral when the battle began, so the Pretender didn't start with regen. But wouldn't the priest bless (Divine Blessing) work? Not on pretenders maybe? Or the info here is inaccurate?
thanks much

[Mormacil]

Bless, inherent, item and spell all stack with each other. Pretenders however only gain bless effects in positive dominion. Blessing has 0 effect on pretenders.

[Rovsea]

That combination might be fun on the Fetish Totem, considering it has a lot of HP, and can easily spec into Earth and Nature.

[Ashleyfish]

corpse eater crow could get insane if you wanna meme it

[Mount Nomad]

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