One of The Best In the Series

[mdesaleah]

Is it sad that this game is still much better than than the most recent games? You’d expect the games to improve, and SA2 is a big improvement, but SA1 is still one of the best to play in the series. A lot of replayability, full 3D levels, great music, a large attention to detail, and a story that connects it all well.

It feels much more complete with actual effort put behind it. Especially when we compare it with games like Forces, Boom, and Lost World

[Dark Redshift]

引用自 EnderIsaacCore：

this should be enough to tell you ikagura is just trying to start flame wars, either that or he cant comprehend the concept of an opinion. just ignore him.

引用自 EnderIsaacCore：

More like he can't comprehend the concept of an opinion not formed from a YouTuber.
Seriously, what Sonic fan uses Game Grumps of all channels to point out how "flawed" the Sonic games are?

It's very likely all of those. You'd think Sega or Valve would have kicked him out of the Sonic community hub for good by now considering how often he derails threads with his arrogant crap, on top of posting bait threads anywhere he can and harassing anyone who has an opinion different to his.

引用自 NBOX21：

引用自 Duckilous：

More like he can't comprehend the concept of an opinion not formed from a YouTuber.
Seriously, what Sonic fan uses Game Grumps of all channels to point out how "flawed" the Sonic games are?

You mean the same ones who went out of their way to glitch through the loop in Emerald Coast? All you have to do to avoid the glitch is hold forward. Besides, even after knowing about said glitch, I couldn't trigger it myself on the GameCube version despite trying my hardest to do so. He also died against Chaos 0, one of the easiest bosses in video game history.

And I'm not the only one speaking out against this either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWKvZWZKGog Because there are plenty of people out there, like myself, that can think for themselves.

Honestly, Game Grumps suck badly at playing any games or judging them fairly. I'd sooner trust EA to make a kart racer. (or any game these days for that matter)

[mdesaleah]

引用自 Dark Redshift：

引用自 EnderIsaacCore：

this should be enough to tell you ikagura is just trying to start flame wars, either that or he cant comprehend the concept of an opinion. just ignore him.

引用自 EnderIsaacCore：

More like he can't comprehend the concept of an opinion not formed from a YouTuber.
Seriously, what Sonic fan uses Game Grumps of all channels to point out how "flawed" the Sonic games are?

It's very likely all of those. You'd think Sega or Valve would have kicked him out of the Sonic community hub for good by now considering how often he derails threads with his arrogant crap, on top of posting bait threads anywhere he can and harassing anyone who has an opinion different to his.

引用自 NBOX21：

You mean the same ones who went out of their way to glitch through the loop in Emerald Coast? All you have to do to avoid the glitch is hold forward. Besides, even after knowing about said glitch, I couldn't trigger it myself on the GameCube version despite trying my hardest to do so. He also died against Chaos 0, one of the easiest bosses in video game history.

And I'm not the only one speaking out against this either. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWKvZWZKGog Because there are plenty of people out there, like myself, that can think for themselves.

Honestly, Game Grumps suck badly at playing any games or judging them fairly. I'd sooner trust EA to make a kart racer. (or any game these days for that matter)

Theres a reason their reputation went downhill over time xD

People got tired of their low skill and inability to try and learn different games

[NBOX21]

引用自 mdesaleah：

Theres a reason their reputation went downhill over time xD

People got tired of their low skill and inability to try and learn different games

Just like IGN then.

[Ikagura]

The Gamegrumps are making this for the humor... it's not my fault if Sonic fans get angry over a guy expressing his opinion...

I think Arin being invited at Sonic events was a good idea.

Same for Aaron Webber doing the Sonic twitter page.

[Dark Redshift]

引用自 Ikagura：

The Gamegrumps are making this for the humor... it's not my fault if Sonic fans get angry over a guy expressing his opinion...

But you don't express your own opinion: you peddle other people's as facts and attack anyone who doesn't agree with you or calls you out on it. So yes, it's entirely your fault.

[Ikagura]

引用自 Dark Redshift：

引用自 Ikagura：

The Gamegrumps are making this for the humor... it's not my fault if Sonic fans get angry over a guy expressing his opinion...

But you don't express your own opinion: you peddle other people's as facts and attack anyone who doesn't agree with you or calls you out on it. So yes, it's entirely your fault.

If you think so...

[NBOX21]

引用自 Ikagura：

If you think so...

Actually, I don't think so... I know so.

[mdesaleah]

This game started to get some level mods recently. Anyone have a favorite?

[SpongebobTheHedgehog (Soul)]

引用自 mdesaleah：

This game started to get some level mods recently. Anyone have a favorite?

The mushroom hill mod is probably my favorite. It has the most detail and could honestly, if SADX was released today, be a good DLC map.

[Ikagura]

引用自 mdesaleah：

This game started to get some level mods recently. Anyone have a favorite?

Sonic Robo Blast 2 had mods way before.

[mdesaleah]

引用自 Ikagura：

引用自 mdesaleah：

This game started to get some level mods recently. Anyone have a favorite?

Sonic Robo Blast 2 had mods way before.

Thats a fan game originally built on the Doom engine.

Its technically a mod with mods of a game known for mods.

[Ikagura]

引用自 mdesaleah：

引用自 Ikagura：

Sonic Robo Blast 2 had mods way before.

Thats a fan game originally built on the Doom engine.

Its technically a mod with mods of a game known for mods.

Doom Legacy* engine, but it has been modified so much it's barely the same thing (like how Half-Life is still technically using the Quake engine but as an heavily modified version of it)

And no, it's not a mod, you can launch the game without needing any base.

[mdesaleah]

引用自 Ikagura：

引用自 mdesaleah：

Thats a fan game originally built on the Doom engine.

Its technically a mod with mods of a game known for mods.

Doom Legacy* engine, but it has been modified so much it's barely the same thing (like how Half-Life is still technically using the Quake engine but as an heavily modified version of it)

And no, it's not a mod, you can launch the game without needing any base.

It started out as a mod.

To simplify it, think of it like some Half Life mods got big enough to release as a separate games.

Same thing here

[Ikagura]

引用自 mdesaleah：

引用自 Ikagura：

Doom Legacy* engine, but it has been modified so much it's barely the same thing (like how Half-Life is still technically using the Quake engine but as an heavily modified version of it)

And no, it's not a mod, you can launch the game without needing any base.

It started out as a mod.

To simplify it, think of it like some Half Life mods got big enough to release as a separate games.

Same thing here

No, it started out as a Game Factory game (like the first SRB).

Saying it's a mod is simply wrong. Anybody who knows a bit about PC gaming knows that a mod needs a base game to work with...

I'm pretty sure that trying to run SRB2 with Doom wouldn't work as well (like trying to load a quake map in half life).

Back to Sonic Adventure, why the game barely has any mods? If they could make it so Tails and Knuckles would be in the same levels as Sonic's story and if they added more open levels I'd probably find a reason to play it again.

[mdesaleah]

引用自 Ikagura：

引用自 mdesaleah：

It started out as a mod.

To simplify it, think of it like some Half Life mods got big enough to release as a separate games.

Same thing here

No, it started out as a Game Factory game (like the first SRB).

Saying it's a mod is simply wrong. Anybody who knows a bit about PC gaming knows that a mod needs a base game to work with...

I'm pretty sure that trying to run SRB2 with Doom wouldn't work as well (like trying to load a quake map in half life).

Back to Sonic Adventure, why the game barely has any mods? If they could make it so Tails and Knuckles would be in the same levels as Sonic's story and if they added more open levels I'd probably find a reason to play it again.

Actually no.

There are many mods that have grown to the point of not needing a base to run off. Just look at the multitude of Half Life engine games that used to be mods, but were later sold as separate games without the base.

Adventure has mods. The reason it isnt many yet is because it is much more difficult to mod for a Dreamcast game. SA2 just recently got a modding breathrough and now people know how to mod it better.

Adventure modding is very difficult, and it took a while for it to become commonplace