Will the original 1998 release of the Dreamcast version be coming to Sega Forever?

[Dark Redshift]

That is one motivation for me to get it on my PDA, same with SA2, Shenmue, NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams, Sonic R and 3D Blast Saturn.

Shadow and Sonic 2006 too if they get included (more likely the former for obvious reasons).

[Leonard]

Shadow and Sonic 2006 were not released on a Sega console so you can forget about them emulating that :P

Since the Sega Forever thing is only on mobile I really wonder how they want to make Dreamcast games run on it...I mean dolphin kinda runs gamecube games on high-end smart phones but I doubt they manage to do anything close to Dolphin judging by their Genesis emulator which apperently already runs bad on older PC.

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by Leonard:

Shadow and Sonic 2006 were not released on a Sega console so you can forget about them emulating that :P

Since the Sega Forever thing is only on mobile I really wonder how they want to make Dreamcast games run on it...I mean dolphin kinda runs gamecube games on high-end smart phones but I doubt they manage to do anything close to Dolphin judging by their Genesis emulator which apperently already runs bad on older PC.

I think there are emulators for Dreamcast on mobile devices, but I haven't used any because I have Null DC on my laptop for SA1 1998 and SA2.

I didn't know the Classic games emulator on Steam worked badly on older PCs, though my laptop is technically old as I got it in late 2013.

It's at least powerful enough to run Null DC without performance issues on my NVIDIA card minus the enevitable emulation bug like the Breakdancing Polygons.

That bug is when a character spazes out on a certain polygon and can't jump until they manouver off it. The Dreamcast versions only have those if running on a virtual machine.

[Myshora]

Even if a smartphone can emulate a Dreamcast game, would be really hard to fit the controller (especially the L-R triggers) also bringing games direclty from Dreamcast would mean featuring the VMU... would be a lot easier begging to Sega to bring an app for smartphones compatible with actual ports from Dreamcast to emulate (or even remaster) the VMU (kind of what they did between Gba and Game Cube with SA and SA2B). Imagine using your SADX Steam port's Chao Garden on your phone, you don't need to use servers for that, just a direct connection between your PC (or console, but that would mean no cables) and your phone.

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by Myshora:

Even if a smartphone can emulate a Dreamcast game, would be really hard to fit the controller (especially the L-R triggers) also bringing games direclty from Dreamcast would mean featuring the VMU... would be a lot easier begging to Sega to bring an app for smartphones compatible with actual ports from Dreamcast to emulate (or even remaster) the VMU (kind of what they did between Gba and Game Cube with SA and SA2B). Imagine using your SADX Steam port's Chao Garden on your phone, you don't need to use servers for that, just a direct connection between your PC (or console, but that would mean no cables) and your phone.

Maybe Sega could develop a Sega Forever branded Dreamcast controller peripheral for use in both tablets and phones. Maybe also make it PC compatible for existing emulators and other games in general like those on Steam such as Super Meat Boy or Freedom Planet.

[Leonard]

Originally posted by Dark Redshift:

Originally posted by Myshora:

Even if a smartphone can emulate a Dreamcast game, would be really hard to fit the controller (especially the L-R triggers) also bringing games direclty from Dreamcast would mean featuring the VMU... would be a lot easier begging to Sega to bring an app for smartphones compatible with actual ports from Dreamcast to emulate (or even remaster) the VMU (kind of what they did between Gba and Game Cube with SA and SA2B). Imagine using your SADX Steam port's Chao Garden on your phone, you don't need to use servers for that, just a direct connection between your PC (or console, but that would mean no cables) and your phone.

Maybe Sega could develop a Sega Forever branded Dreamcast controller peripheral for use in both tablets and phones. Maybe also make it PC compatible for existing emulators and other games in general like those on Steam such as Super Meat Boy or Freedom Planet.

Sega Forever already has support for controllers. No need for that.

[SpyroGuy]

No way José, Mr. Dark.
Not until Sega gets proper medication for it's 2D nostalgia fetish.

Until then stuff such as a possible NiGHTS: JoD, ShadowTH, Heroes, '06 or a Sonic R re-release will stay a dream, nothing more.

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by SpyroGuy:

No way José, Mr. Dark.
Not until Sega gets proper medication for it's 2D nostalgia fetish. :lilac:

Until then stuff such as a possible NiGHTS: JoD, ShadowTH, Heroes, '06 or a Sonic R re-release will stay a dream, nothing more.

While I respect your point about their obsession with the 2D games, explain this:

http://forever.sega.com/about

SEGA® Forever™ is a free and growing classic games collection of nearly every SEGA game ever released from every console era – Master System, Genesis/Mega Drive, Dreamcast, and more. Available on iOS and Android mobile devices.

[SpyroGuy]

You know I will believe that statement when I actually see it actually happening.
Sega has a bad record to making promised things happen at least in my book.

[Badcatalex]

today there's Dreamcast conversion for SADX.

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by Badcatalex:

today there's Dreamcast conversion for SADX.

I know: I have it and SKing Blue's Retranslated mod. We need a DCC mod for SA2 as well.

[F-Man]

Phones can't support DC emulators with order independent transparency. And just making one with all the hacks necessary to make a particular game look good would take Sega years and all for no profit.

You might see 2D games though.

[Leonard]

Originally posted by F-Man:

Phones can't support DC emulators with order independent transparency. And just making one with all the hacks necessary to make a particular game look good would take Sega years and all for no profit.

You might see 2D games though.

Not emulation but they can port the games. Jet Set Radio had an android version.

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by Leonard:

Originally posted by F-Man:

Phones can't support DC emulators with order independent transparency. And just making one with all the hacks necessary to make a particular game look good would take Sega years and all for no profit.

You might see 2D games though.

Not emulation but they can port the games. Jet Set Radio had an android version.

Would they port the DC versions of SA1 1998 and SA2 as is? All versions of vanilla SA1DX and SA2B suck.

[Leonard]

They would probably just port the steam version. Sega doesnt really care much about making the best out of something.

What is wrong with the steam version of SA2B by the way? Missing multiplayer and chao stuff?

[Dark Redshift]

Originally posted by Leonard:

They would probably just port the steam version. Sega doesnt really care much about making the best out of something.

What is wrong with the steam version of SA2B by the way? Missing multiplayer and chao stuff?

More than that, except the multiplayer and chao stuff in the Dreamcast version is merely different, not missing. I have screenshots for Null DC on my profile listing some of the visual differences. More are listed on Sonic News Network and maybe Sonic Retro as well.