PC Properties

[jimwsutton]

Playing the NWN game and after I killed a couple of bad guys (one a large dog [in the Rumbottom Estate] and the other The Master of Animals [in the zoo]) in the loot I've been getting an item that says--"PC Properties- This item is used for Expansion Pack 3 (1.69) to store PC Properties used by horse scripts. Creature Item Weight 0.1 " What is this? I can't pick it up and it was the only item in the loot after killing "The Master of Animals". I have the original cd's and never had this problem before when I played this long time before and if I remember correctly their weren't any "horses" for riding in cd version.

[wendigo211]

Short answer: Just get rid of it, it's an item you should not have received.

Long answer:
A creature skin is used by module makers to give creatures persistent item properties. E.g. a zombie has a creature skin that gives it immunity to critical hits, level drain and all the other stuff that undead are immune to. These items should not be dropped, but occasionally one of them gets flagged as droppable and PC can end up picking them up. It's supposed to be one of those behind the scenes things that players never see.

On occasion these skins are given to PCs, the most common usage is with polymorph effects (Shifter abilities and polymorph spells) but sometimes it gets used for other things (in my module, Sea of Shadow, I use one to put a curse on the PC). When Wyvern Crown of Cormyr was released, the module makers found a way to add rideable horses to the game. They had to use PC skins to implement this. That functionality has subsequently been added to the base game, and the item you found was one of these skins.

[76561198065047447]

If it's in loot bags, don't sweat it. You shouldn't be able to touch it or use it. If it shows up in YOUR inventory, your module might use it to store stuff on. Quickslot it, then "use" the quickslot. Then you'll have to drag another item into that quickslot to be able to clear it.

[jimwsutton]

Well, I couldn't pick any of them up so they stayed on they ground. Are they replacing the loot? I mean some of the loot is crappy, but just wanted to know if it's some sort of bug that eventually starts replacing all loot. Thanks for responding.

[wendigo211]

Originally posted by jimwsutton:

Well, I couldn't pick any of them up so they stayed on they ground. Are they replacing the loot? I mean some of the loot is crappy, but just wanted to know if it's some sort of bug that eventually starts replacing all loot. Thanks for responding.

It shouldn't be replacing the loot. Most of the loot is generated by a script that picks from list of appropriate treasure and that item shouldn't be on the list. That particular creature probably wasn't configured properly, so it should be an isolated incident. If you start seeing more skins dropping then you might have a bug.

[Internet Cafe]

It's something the game has always done, it is not frequent. You aren't supposed to see it, I don't know what causes it to come off either. There is also a bug where you can freeze an item in your inventory if you try to quickly move it into a slot (like a sword) which really is annoying because the item is locked and can't be used unless you restart the game.

[Tesseract]

It is definitely a bug for this to show up in loot. Can't hurt to report it even if it's only a cosmetic issue.

[Internet Cafe]

Yes it's a bug, it's been in the game long before the EE version too.

[NaCl]

I found this bug also while playing Darkness over Daggerford, see:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/704450/discussions/0/3044982312815492867/