Neverwinter nights 2 ?

[БОТ Капитоша]

Will it be on steam and why it isnt. Enhanced edition in work?

[ThatKoboldGaming | #FixTF2]

Because Obsidian has a death grip on their properties

[Ettanin]

Originally posted by ThatKoboldGaming:

Because Microsoft has a death grip on their properties

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suvxb0OfhpQ

FTFY

[Tesseract]

Originally posted by lnzx:

Will it be on steam and why it isnt.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2760/discussions/0/810923580540078773/

Enhanced edition in work?

See: half of the off-topic subforum.

[Paradox101]

Guys, talk a lot about obisidian when talking about nwn 2.
Only !!
People forget that the rights to neverwinter 2 as a D&D work belong to the wizard of the coast, and then perhaps the obisidian has some right to the game.
Even so, I believe that if the beamdog wants to do it, they would, or would have done it already. Why do you ask me...
I believe that they are not very interested in this at least for now, as it is not so difficult to "remaster" the 2, since it is younger and does not need as much polish as the 1.
As we all know the work of remaster, even more "basic" as beamdog has done, at least at launch, is very economical for them, as it does not require much change in the game.
It is not like doing something from scratch.

Soon, I hope, but not for now.
Possibility always exists.

Finally, the law of trailers does not stick.
Since the first game was from bioware, if it were so it wouldn't have come out on the beamdog. People have to improve the arguments, and stop writing nonsense.

[DrLoboto]

Originally posted by King_of_Acre:

I believe that they are not very interested in this at least for now, as it is not so difficult to "remaster" the 2, since it is younger and does not need as much polish as the 1.

Oh, it does need a lot more polish than 1, IMO, but most of its issues lie within the engine and won't be easy to fix at all, especially not for people who weren't involved in creating it (I believe quite a few people working on NWN EE already had a connection with working on the original NWN back in the days).

Anyway, I don't have any links at the moment, but IIRC Beamdog officials have already stated that there are no plans for remastering NWN2 at the moment, more than one time.

[БОТ Капитоша]

no neverwinter nights 2, no alpha protocol, no outer worlds on steam! hello, whats happening!

[n00bdragon]

Originally posted by lnzx loot.farm tradeit.gg:

Will it be on steam and why it isnt. Enhanced edition in work?

NWN2 is (or well, was) on steam. If you bought it before it was removed you can still download and play it. The forum for the game is here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2760/discussions/

It will probably never return to Steam because of licensing issues with Atari, who owns the license to publish NWN2. NWN2 was removed from Steam in 2013 a couple months after Atari declared bankruptcy. Obviously no one here is privy to exactly what happened but I would suspect that Steam removed NWN2 for Atari's failure to pay something in regards to hosting it. Throughout 2013 and continuing through 2018 Atari sold off a large portion of its portfolio to various other companies. NWN2 was not part of that sale, possibly because no one was interested in buying it.

In 2015 Atari started a turnaround strategy focused on re-releasing Atari's catalog of games, focusing most heavily on its most traditional franchises and most popular properties (things like Roller Coaster Tycoon and Lunar Lander).

In all likelihood NWN2 has been completely forgotten by its owner, Atari. They clearly have no interest in reviving the Steam storefront for the game meaning that whatever effort or cost that would require of them isn't worth whatever sales they would expect to make off of NWN2 Platinum being on Steam. They might be receptive to another company purchasing the publishing license but I don't know if that would include a license to develop a new version of the game (which might still be held by Obsidian) or just to publish the existing NWN2 Platinum.

Right now your best bet for getting a NWN2 remake is to wait for Ferret Baudoin and J.E. Sawyer to both kick the bucket and then wait 70 years for the copyright to expire.

[Longhaul]

Originally posted by n00bdragon:

Originally posted by lnzx loot.farm tradeit.gg:

Will it be on steam and why it isnt. Enhanced edition in work?

NWN2 is (or well, was) on steam. If you bought it before it was removed you can still download and play it. The forum for the game is here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2760/discussions/

It will probably never return to Steam because of licensing issues with Atari, who owns the license to publish NWN2. NWN2 was removed from Steam in 2013 a couple months after Atari declared bankruptcy. Obviously no one here is privy to exactly what happened but I would suspect that Steam removed NWN2 for Atari's failure to pay something in regards to hosting it. Throughout 2013 and continuing through 2018 Atari sold off a large portion of its portfolio to various other companies. NWN2 was not part of that sale, possibly because no one was interested in buying it.

In 2015 Atari started a turnaround strategy focused on re-releasing Atari's catalog of games, focusing most heavily on its most traditional franchises and most popular properties (things like Roller Coaster Tycoon and Lunar Lander).

In all likelihood NWN2 has been completely forgotten by its owner, Atari. They clearly have no interest in reviving the Steam storefront for the game meaning that whatever effort or cost that would require of them isn't worth whatever sales they would expect to make off of NWN2 Platinum being on Steam. They might be receptive to another company purchasing the publishing license but I don't know if that would include a license to develop a new version of the game (which might still be held by Obsidian) or just to publish the existing NWN2 Platinum.

Right now your best bet for getting a NWN2 remake is to wait for Ferret Baudoin and J.E. Sawyer to both kick the bucket and then wait 70 years for the copyright to expire.

Or just buy it on GOG..

[DrLoboto]

Originally posted by Daynox:

Originally posted by n00bdragon:

Right now your best bet for getting a NWN2 remake is to wait for Ferret Baudoin and J.E. Sawyer to both kick the bucket and then wait 70 years for the copyright to expire.

Or just buy it on GOG..

Was my first thought as well, but look closely, Daynox is not talking about buying the original in the last sentence but about hopes for a remake.

[wendigo211]

The holder of the IP for NWN2 is Atari/Infogrames. NWN2 was on Steam, but it was removed around the same time that Atari declared Bankruptcy (same day I think). I guess because of a different licensing agreement it's still available on GOG. The company has gone through some changes, but AFAIK they still hold IP, so they would be the ones to contact for an EE.

[red255]

basically it was on steam, and its not on steam now because lawyers.

if you want it to be on steam in the future you need to get rid of all the lawyers.

[Silvaren]

There won't be any NWN 2 EE because Trent Oster said that during one livestream that NWN 2 is different experience while he would like to focus on multiplayer D&D simulation in the first game. I don't blame him. NWN1 was his game, he was game director of NWN back then in BioWare.

[DeMOiX]

IF Atari is bankrupted doesn't mean that they lost the IP? If the company bankrupted that means they no longer exist and anyone can make EE? How does it work? If the company no longer exist/bankrupted it's not fair that they hold IP, I mean how they still can even hold if they bankrupted

[Tesseract]

Often bankrupt companies have to sell all their assets to pay their debts, but Atari came out of bankruptcy after selling off only some of their properties. NWN wasn't one of the ones they sold.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_SA#Bankruptcy

[Sir Lord Wololo]

Originally posted by lnzx:

Will it be on steam and why it isnt. Enhanced edition in work?

I doubt it: not any time soon at least. Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition still needs a lot of work. <_<'

Even when NWN:EE is done, NWN2:EE really depends on Trent Oster's preference, I think.