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IscariotsAngel Nov 22, 2018 @ 3:53pm
Improved Knockdown: not so improved
Just checking the numbers in my feed. It looks like knockdown and improved knockdown both just -4 from your attack roll. Improved is supposed to make you one size category larger (effectively +4). Also, goblins should be getting hit easier than larger targets, but they appear to be -4 as well. anyone else experienced this? Bug?
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Originally posted by Bishop:
Originally posted by IscariotsAngel:
Just checking the numbers in my feed. It looks like knockdown and improved knockdown both just -4 from your attack roll.
That exactly what their description says.

Improved is supposed to make you one size category larger (effectively +4). Also, goblins should be getting hit easier than larger targets, but they appear to be -4 as well. anyone else experienced this? Bug?
No, thats how it supposed to be. One size bigger means you'll get +4 bonus for your attack check against discipline check of knockdown targer to determinate if you can knock them prone. Size has nothing to do with attack penality itself, it will apply against any target just the same no matter how large or small they are.

E.g.character makes a Knockdown attack against goblin with AB 19 - 4 (from KD) = 15
Goblin has AC 12 therefore attack connects.
Now characters makes additional AB check, using his pervious AB roll + all Size Modifier Bonuses/Penalties to determinate if target will be knocked prone. This check is made against target's Discipline skill. And thats is where Improved Knockdown +4 bonus kicks in.
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Bishop Nov 23, 2018 @ 3:52am 
Originally posted by IscariotsAngel:
Just checking the numbers in my feed. It looks like knockdown and improved knockdown both just -4 from your attack roll.
That exactly what their description says.

Improved is supposed to make you one size category larger (effectively +4). Also, goblins should be getting hit easier than larger targets, but they appear to be -4 as well. anyone else experienced this? Bug?
No, thats how it supposed to be. One size bigger means you'll get +4 bonus for your attack check against discipline check of knockdown targer to determinate if you can knock them prone. Size has nothing to do with attack penality itself, it will apply against any target just the same no matter how large or small they are.

E.g.character makes a Knockdown attack against goblin with AB 19 - 4 (from KD) = 15
Goblin has AC 12 therefore attack connects.
Now characters makes additional AB check, using his pervious AB roll + all Size Modifier Bonuses/Penalties to determinate if target will be knocked prone. This check is made against target's Discipline skill. And thats is where Improved Knockdown +4 bonus kicks in.
Last edited by Bishop; Nov 23, 2018 @ 4:04am
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IscariotsAngel Nov 23, 2018 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Bishop:
Originally posted by IscariotsAngel:
Just checking the numbers in my feed. It looks like knockdown and improved knockdown both just -4 from your attack roll.
That exactly what their description says.

Improved is supposed to make you one size category larger (effectively +4). Also, goblins should be getting hit easier than larger targets, but they appear to be -4 as well. anyone else experienced this? Bug?
No, thats how it supposed to be. One size bigger means you'll get +4 bonus for your attack check against discipline check of knockdown targer to determinate if you can knock them prone. Size has nothing to do with attack penality itself, it will apply against any target just the same no matter how large or small they are.

E.g.character makes a Knockdown attack against goblin with AB 19 - 4 (from KD) = 15
Goblin has AC 12 therefore attack connects.
Now characters makes additional AB check, using his pervious AB roll + all Size Modifier Bonuses/Penalties to determinate if target will be knocked prone. This check is made against target's Discipline skill. And thats is where Improved Knockdown +4 bonus kicks in.

Ahhh, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that
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