Bug in HotU, Obelisk puzzle Beholder caves

[Funfood]

I managed to get to the obelisk room by escaping bebilith. I solved the obelisk puzzle, got the stone out of it... but the magic is still gone. Resting, saving, reloading... nothing works. Any hint what to do?

[MarioFanaticXV]

I'm having the same problem. I was able to beat the Bebilith, but it doesn't matter because all my items are now useless.

[MarioFanaticXV]

Alright, I reloaded an older save and redid the Beholder's Cave. Here's what I did:

1st attempt: Fought the Beholder Tyrant and the Bebilith, obelisk glitched.
2nd attempt: Didn't fight the Tyrant but fought the Bebilith, obelisk glitched.
3rd attempt: Didn't fight the Tyrant or the Bebilith, obelisk worked.

Now I'm not sure if fighting the Bebilith is the cause or if that's just coincidence- though both times I fought it before solving the obelisk, I approached it from behind (the side with the obelisk).

[MeetYourNanny]

Same bloody problem here as well! And it`s just my character whose equipment became worthless (all of bloody it!). My NPC`s equipment is just fine....

[Funfood]

i killed the Beholder Tyrant first and you know how it is... the last savegame before this is long long ago...

[BadInLatin]

I have also run into this issue. Tried multiple ways to solve the issue, including some of those above, but no joy. Finally, tried walking all the way back to the Seer's Compound. Still unable to use magic and no items work by the time the siege starts. Gave up and came here to see if there were any solutions. No joy here either. HELP!

[red255]

have you tried, killing yourself?

rogue stone respawn with the relic thing. (or alternatively dm_heal)

[BadInLatin]

I tried both. Neither works.

[Astral Projection]

Looks like if you run across this bug then pray you have a save file before it happened.

By luck I had an auto-save right before entering the Eye Tyrant Caverns.

[Astral Projection]

Originally posted by MarioFanaticXV:

Alright, I reloaded an older save and redid the Beholder's Cave. Here's what I did:

1st attempt: Fought the Beholder Tyrant and the Bebilith, obelisk glitched.
2nd attempt: Didn't fight the Tyrant but fought the Bebilith, obelisk glitched.
3rd attempt: Didn't fight the Tyrant or the Bebilith, obelisk worked.

Now I'm not sure if fighting the Bebilith is the cause or if that's just coincidence- though both times I fought it before solving the obelisk, I approached it from behind (the side with the obelisk).

Ok will try this.

BTW, this is only viable if you have a very high Spellcraft? I don't think there is another way to access the secret door from the back of the Obelisk...

[Tesseract]

It sounds like this is definitely a bug. Has anyone asked for help on the official support site? They may be able to offer a workaround until the bug can be properly fixed.

https://beamdog.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1

[MarioFanaticXV]

Originally posted by Astral Projection:

BTW, this is only viable if you have a very high Spellcraft? I don't think there is another way to access the secret door from the back of the Obelisk...

I think you need lore, not spellcraft. But regardless, you can repeatedly perform the check even if you need a 20 to succeed- if you have Deekin, make sure he plays his bard song first (yes, it still works in the cave, even though strictly speaking it shouldn't).

Sadly, if your skill isn't high enough, I don't think there's any way around it.

Originally posted by Tesseract:

It sounds like this is definitely a bug. Has anyone asked for help on the official support site? They may be able to offer a workaround until the bug can be properly fixed.

https://beamdog.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1

I sent a ticket but it was Christmas Eve, so I'm expecting things to be slow. Still have yet to get any reply beyond the automated response.

[Astral Projection]

Originally posted by MarioFanaticXV:

Originally posted by Astral Projection:

BTW, this is only viable if you have a very high Spellcraft? I don't think there is another way to access the secret door from the back of the Obelisk...

I think you need lore, not spellcraft. But regardless, you can repeatedly perform the check even if you need a 20 to succeed- if you have Deekin, make sure he plays his bard song first (yes, it still works in the cave, even though strictly speaking it shouldn't).

Sadly, if your skill isn't high enough, I don't think there's any way around it.

Originally posted by Tesseract:

It sounds like this is definitely a bug. Has anyone asked for help on the official support site? They may be able to offer a workaround until the bug can be properly fixed.

https://beamdog.atlassian.net/servicedesk/customer/portal/1

I sent a ticket but it was Christmas Eve, so I'm expecting things to be slow. Still have yet to get any reply beyond the automated response.

According to this wiki Spellcraft or Lore.

http://www.gamebanshee.com/neverwinternights/hotuwalkthrough/eyetyrants.php

[BadInLatin]

I tried running past the Bebilith [both ways], exiting the caves, returning, killing the Tyrant, then the Bebilith. Still no joy. Gah!

[red255]

if you dont have enough spell craft or lore you could console your stats up, like +200 INT for the duration which should add 100 lore.

[Astral Projection]

Confirm that what MarioFanatic posted above:

- don't fight the King Eye Tyrant
- don't go near the Bebilith
- take the back entrance to the Obelisk using Lore or Spellcraft

The bug does not occur. I have my items back. Wohoo.