What do I do after I get the double jump?

[Naijiro]

I've been playing for hours mostly grinding and I got the double jump ability but now I need the ability that lets me fit into smaller spaces I guess?

For reference I found a room on the bottom left that needs a warehouse key, I also found what looks like a train station area that needs something for me to continue.

I also can't swim in water so that's something. I need as well...

Can anyone assist me?

[Naijiro]

Originally posted by Arte:

Go to the Twin Dragon Towers. You can progress further up with double jump.
You get the Bromide to take your picture, take it to OD to get passport for train.

That actually makes a lot of sense in context...would you happen to remember which room he's in or is he also in the towers?

[Naijiro]

Alright thank you I found him!

[Texus]

Maybe I missed something, but I actually still need to find the bromide. I like to find out much myself but then again at the moment I don't want to waste any time searching for a possible random item.

[Algester]

bromide is acquire after defeating the twin tower boss its more of a reward than anything

[Texus]

Originally posted by Algester:

bromide is acquire after defeating the twin tower boss its more of a reward than anything

Just did that thank you, I can't believe I actually forgot to search at the tower with the double jump. I did everything else but I didn't go there again

[Gosen]

Every-time I get a new power I get stuck, there's no much information what to do and it's hard to remember entire map. But the photograph and progressing after invert were the worst ones. Would never complete this game if not for google, seriously...

[Weapon Master]

Arte, I'm pretty sure at least half of the people were getting stuck after double jump / laser / blood steal on day one. There's no event log or anything to keep track of important discoveries (outside of an undocumented mark system in the map), and some things like talking to O.D. about the train require a really specific line to get him to mention the passcard.

If you first find the train and then meet O.D. for the first time, you actually need to talk to him a second time after getting your books for him to even mention the passcard. If you find the train after you meet O.D., there's nothing that tells you "Oh hey O.D. might know more about this, lets go ask him to advance the plot for us".

If this were a different Castlevania game, the Twin Dragon would just drop an item like a key that lets you get onto the train. In this one it's a fetch quest (made easy if you found all teleporter rooms) where you need to go Bromide > Photo > O.D. > Train.

[Weapon Master]

If I remember correctly, the only hint the Church girl gives after getting double jump is something like "Seek a demon that's able to move at the speed of light, you'll find a way to kill it". That says nothing like "Go to the double dragon tower and get the bromide, then talk to orlock dracule, then get your picture, then talk to orlock dracule, then go to the train".

[wildfire393]

Speaking personally, I spoke to OD only once, and mentally marked him as "Okay here's a merchant where I can get an item to buff my stats, I have no reason to go back to him unless I need a different stat buff". I got the bromide, I got the photo, I even went back to the train with the photo, and there was no indication that OD was involved at all.

[Algester]

he does tell you if you visit him infact hints where to go are littered in 2 areas
thats OD and Dominique literally the what would be the most frequented places (if you are keeping up changing your tomes as you see fit its one of his earlier dialogues about saying you need a photograph from the church as soon as the Twin Towers is open)

infact going to OD all the time in early game nets you 3 books 4-5 visits to him does the job

the hints trail stops once you get invert because by then you need to kill Gabel (bad ending) or push forward and explore and get to the oriental lab as an igavania game exploration becomes key to unlocking the true ending, not saying as a veteran I literally cheesed my way into the Oriental Sorcery lab after getting invert that was the only logical place left unexplored

[Texus]

Originally posted by Arte:

And what are you basing this half the people off? The steam forums? Don't make me laugh.
This series just isn't for the kind of people who need red arrows guiding them every way. God forbid you have to actually explore the castle, experiment with what you have and ask the NPCs (who actually give tips on almost all of the places people get stuck at, including diving underwater and the blood fountain, if you weren't such a lazyass)

Calm down a bit, I admit that I feel like this was just a stupid mistake on my part since I got stuck too till I noticed that I actually haven't searched in that one area but I can also see how they miss the other things he mentioned.

That just sounded slightly rude to me, since I believe everyone might have their own reasons for making a mistake there. Maybe depending on what games they played before.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Arte:

All Castlevania games are like this. I think you just have bad memory or don't pay attention.

That's what makes them so fun.

[Naijiro]

Originally posted by Arte:

OD is also an NPC. You could just take the initiative and see what he has to say yourself instead of sitting and whining about the game not holding your hand. They even put him right next to a teleporter precisely for this reason. If it turns out he has nothing to say, you spent about 20 seconds and ruled out a possibility on how to advance. Not everything you try will be the correct answer, this is the fun of exploration an experimentation.
You need to explore Twin Dragon Towers to progress, you had to have noticed the inaccessible area in it, there is no way around it. It is entirely your fault for completely ignoring what's on your screen and not making mental memos.
The photography booth is a big interactable location at your home base, something you pass by constantly throughout the game, if you didn't bother to take 10 steps to the left to actually see what was in your base, then that's again entirely your fault.

I know you're defending the game and I appriciate you helping me earlier but I still think it's poor game design, another example would be having to grind the water creatures to get the ability to go under water, it's never really explained anyway, even getting this ability that pushes the plot forward doesn't seem that important.

I get what you're trying to say about exploration, but putting something like a super important skill within a common enemy seems really silly.

But i do agree, speaking to O.D would be a good idea for ruling out what to do about the train. Honestly with me i played the game in the middle of the night while i was sleepy and completely forget about O.D honestly.

[Algester]

obviously the type of people who havent played any of the Sorrow Duology or Order of Ecclesia I only played Aria of Sorrow and Order of Ecclesia though I did enjoy the latter then again that was the final igavania in the franchise

[RobDeLaMorte]

"No GuYs ItS gOoD gAmE dEsIgN iTs So ObViOuS" as like 25% of the forum posts are literally about the same parts of the game, asked by many different kinds of people and players. Really makes you think. 🤔