What does GMDX V10 do ?

[Sodie Popping]

I'm still on V9 and wondering if i should go to v10, but i want to know the differences are first and if it's worth updating

[Dreambox]

don't use GMDX V10 it is not made by the official dev, and they rolledback a lot of feature

the true and latest update of GMDX is GMDX RSD, which is greenlighted by the original creator of GMDX -> https://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx/addons/version-rsd-beta-10-future-official-update#membersform

[Sodie Popping]

Originally posted by Dreambox:

don't use GMDX V10 it is not made by the official dev, and they rolledback a lot of feature

the true and latest update of GMDX is GMDX RSD, which is greenlighted by the original creator of GMDX -> https://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx/addons/version-rsd-beta-10-future-official-update#membersform

Whats wrong with the version?

[YCCCM7]

Whenever a GMDX cultist makes an entitled claim, they probably haven't gone outside their bubble enough to know what they're actually talking about. That being said, judge for yourself, because I dislike GMDX too much to think it can even be saved: https://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx-v10-community-update/news/gmdx-v10-community-update-release-changelog
Play the unmodded game if you haven't first, though. It's always worth at least one shot before trying out a bunch of mods.

[Sodie Popping]

Originally posted by YCCCM7:

Whenever a GMDX cultist makes an entitled claim, they probably haven't gone outside their bubble enough to know what they're actually talking about. That being said, judge for yourself, because I dislike GMDX too much to think it can even be saved: https://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx-v10-community-update/news/gmdx-v10-community-update-release-changelog
Play the unmodded game if you haven't first, though. It's always worth at least one shot before trying out a bunch of mods.

What are the problems with it?

[YCCCM7]

The problems with v9 fall into 2 categories: One is buginess and jank. Most of these need a technical eye to catch or just play kinda funny. Things like enemies having frame perfect reaction times if they strafe around a corner at you, strafing bots that roll on treads, weird objects made out of credit chit meshes that are reskinned, greasels having a really janky and OP jump attack that's undodgable when in chains, things like that.
The other category is the more dangerous one: What's it's sold as. I've seen it sold by the creator, on many ocassions, as "vanilla but better in every way", whereafter the mod proceeds to delete naked solutions from the game (Something central to its philosophy tenants), add lore-breaking enemies, lock random doors or gate random things for the sake of "Difficulty", adding random edginess to the game that bastardizes the art style it'd chosen... It's a long list, and I've done a lot of writeups on it on reddit calling people out on it in the past.
If you're asking about the v10 thing, I have no idea. Haven't played it. Don't intend to. I got told I'd enjoy playing GMDX once, and was immediately disappointed thereafter. I'm not falling for that crap twice.

[Dreambox]

I never said GMDX was the best sh*t and never acted like a cultist, already saw you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this mod (with good argument actually) on reddit and now here you are, world is a small place.

I only said that V10 is not an official release and that GMDX RSD (made by RoSoDude or something like that) is the "official" successor, nothing more, nothing less. and also that V10 rolled back a lot of stuff that V9 added, which is true.

I'm not going to talk about the quality of the mod itself as I also dislike it, the fact that you can now climb bigger objet is enough for me to throw GMDX in the trash, because of this feature the author removed every little movable box he could find that were originaly useful and your left with a barebone exploration experience. Hell, I'm even tempted to say that Revision is better than GMDX because at least it does not force you to play in a specific way. Don't get me started with the fact that everyone in the world seems to have infinite flares in their pockets, I'll never understand how GMDX got such a cult fan base but for a reason that's how it went.

[YCCCM7]

My apologies. The unspecific comment damning something based on who made it seemed like classic cultist territory to me. Clearly I've seen too much of it in my time. Carry on.

[Evuul]

I didnt't play v9, but a can guarantee v10 is really nice. Let's you choose a lot of stuff and between old and new textures. Give it a try. Respects the vainilla.

[alex.n.gregory]

I never tried v10 -- I seem to recall there was some controversy over the team that took over the mod putting in a bunch of copyrighted/legacy images and skins from other games that were allegedly out of place.

What I've played of v9 RSD was fantastic, and unlike YCCCM7, I'm not going to damn a mod over a handful of comparatively-trivial things. There is no DX mod that is 100% faithful to the original -- and even though I dislike parts of v9RSD (namely the weird obstacle course in Vandenberg and some of the Perks, which break the challenge), I'm not going to solely write off a project just for that reason.

Hell, I'm still waiting on a mod that will add a comprehensive amount of all the cut and unused content from the game files back to the original (Lay D Denton, GMDX and Revision all have various parts of it, but nothing that's exhaustive.

[YCCCM7]

Originally posted by alex.n.gregory:

I never tried v10 -- I seem to recall there was some controversy over the team that took over the mod putting in a bunch of copyrighted/legacy images and skins from other games that were allegedly out of place.

What I've played of v9 RSD was fantastic, and unlike YCCCM7, I'm not going to damn a mod over a handful of comparatively-trivial things. There is no DX mod that is 100% faithful to the original -- and even though I dislike parts of v9RSD (namely the weird obstacle course in Vandenberg and some of the Perks, which break the challenge), I'm not going to solely write off a project just for that reason.

Lmao. That was scratching the surface back then, trust me, but I avoid GMDX posts these days as a rule of thumb. To issue a correction for you, though: As someone who enjoyed reading a bunch of salty posts about it after release, you are legitimately getting them confused. V9 and vRSD contain truckloads of stolen assets from about a dozen different sources. This is something I'm familiar with without even digging too deeply. V10 got complaints for taking the stolen assets OUT of GMDX, at least from what I saw. The actual complaint is that they made a mod without asking the author IIRC. Given GMDX's tendency to project a toxic and elitist attitude on some of its forums though, especially in response to criticism, this hardly surprises me.

[Evuul]

Ok, just to add up. Yes, GMDX was bug fixing + tweaks on functionality, and some new mechanics. GMDX v10 is a branch of that mod, that erased some of the tweaks, kept some, but tried to keep it towards vainilla, made by a group of users called "The maintenance man". And v10 has in it's menu a lot to choose where to enable or disable tweaks and textures. Anyway, try first level on each, that should give you an exmaple of what im telling you about.
P.D.: When you can, play realisic. I think it's the best way to enjoy it, but it's a personal.

[Peter34]

I use GMDX v10. I tried a bit of v9 last summer but it makes too many annoying changes relative to vanilla, e.g. to the maps, at least the first map, Liberty Island. So after only a few minutes of gameplay I instead tried v10 and I liked that much more.

[Cy]

Damn it. I'm trying to decide what to install for my 1st playthrough. After reading multiple threads here, I'm seriously starting to think Revision isn't a bad choice, simply because it's a 1-click-install on Steam nowadays. Reading all the opinions on GMDX mod and its branches gave me a headache. Is there some kind of at least semi-official opinion by the original game developers available somewhere?

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by Cy:

Damn it. I'm trying to decide what to install for my 1st playthrough. After reading multiple threads here, I'm seriously starting to think Revision isn't a bad choice, simply because it's a 1-click-install on Steam nowadays. Reading all the opinions on GMDX mod and its branches gave me a headache. Is there some kind of at least semi-official opinion by the original game developers available somewhere?

Why not try both and form your own opinion? Everyone has different taste, I personally prefer gmdx over revision, but I've formed my own opinion based on playing them

[∅]

Originally posted by YCCCM7:

The problems with v9 fall into 2 categories: One is buginess and jank. Most of these need a technical eye to catch or just play kinda funny. Things like enemies having frame perfect reaction times if they strafe around a corner at you, strafing bots that roll on treads, weird objects made out of credit chit meshes that are reskinned, greasels having a really janky and OP jump attack that's undodgable when in chains, things like that.
The other category is the more dangerous one: What's it's sold as. I've seen it sold by the creator, on many ocassions, as "vanilla but better in every way", whereafter the mod proceeds to delete naked solutions from the game (Something central to its philosophy tenants), add lore-breaking enemies, lock random doors or gate random things for the sake of "Difficulty", adding random edginess to the game that bastardizes the art style it'd chosen... It's a long list, and I've done a lot of writeups on it on reddit calling people out on it in the past.
If you're asking about the v10 thing, I have no idea. Haven't played it. Don't intend to. I got told I'd enjoy playing GMDX once, and was immediately disappointed thereafter. I'm not falling for that crap twice.

I can't ever imagine being as hopelessly wrong as you are - great job NOT providing examples of every single one of the non-issues you cited.