Why the technologies in DX1 is very 'outdated' compared to HR and MD?

[Fyrelex]

Despite Deus Ex 1 sets 25 years after HR, I dont understand why are the technologies in the first game is pretty much what we have right now (normal boats and helicopters) despite in both HR and MD they have high tech stuff like eBook, Vtols or Augmentations. I dont mean it like a bad thing im just curious. Some said its due to economic collapse?

[FhqwhTODD]

Because they didn't do their job very well or they have a lot of explaining to do in the sequels to these 2 games.

[♦ Tobirama Senjū ♦]

Because America.

[briarroot]

Maybe because the DR and MD devs wanted to have a little more fun than would have been offered if they slavishly stuck to the hardware from DX1?

The 'highest' of the high tech in DX1 is the arrival of nanobot controlled biomods, something that is just on the brink of discovery in HR (you can read about it in emails in Jensen's girlfriend's apartment when he finally catches up with her).

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by briarroot:

Maybe because the DR and MD devs wanted to have a little more fun than would have been offered if they slavishly stuck to the hardware from DX1?

The 'highest' of the high tech in DX1 is the arrival of nanobot controlled biomods, something that is just on the brink of discovery in HR (you can read about it in emails in Jensen's girlfriend's apartment when he finally catches up with her).

Translation, they wanted an Assassin's Creed anime coolman as the main character of their game so they eliminated all remaining credulity after IW and made Detroit look like Seattle in the 2020s when in reality it will clearly look more like the first game and its very basic, generic brick and mortar geometry

[GODHEAD HEAVY INDUSTRIES]

Because HR and MD were made by different developers and they failed to capture the spirit of decay in the original. Simple as that. Deus Ex is futuristic but grounded in it's settings, but Eidos threw that out of the window and made whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they wanted.

[talgaby]

Although in some aspect DX is still more modern in technology. Datacubes are much more compact than eBooks and nanokeys are nowhere around in DX3 and DX4. Whether Jock's military issue stealth helicopter that apparently can cross the Atlantic in a few hours with one load of fuel is more modern than the VTOLs is up for debate.

[Countess Isolde]

There was an economic collapse, and MD is showing us the start of it. The world of Deus Ex circa 2052 is very dystopian; there was a fall from the heights that we saw in HR.

And DX1 tech is still better than HR. Nano-augmentation makes Adam Jensen look like a walking toolbox (compare him to Gunther), and JC is far, far more powerful than Adam.

As for VTOLs and such, I don't think Jock's black helicopter is necessarily a downgrade. There were helicopters in HR as well.

[Scrubwave]

Because new DXs are fan-fic tier.

[Skeletal Knave]

Originally posted by Countess Isolde:

There was an economic collapse, and MD is showing us the start of it. The world of Deus Ex circa 2052 is very dystopian; there was a fall from the heights that we saw in HR.

And DX1 tech is still better than HR. Nano-augmentation makes Adam Jensen look like a walking toolbox (compare him to Gunther), and JC is far, far more powerful than Adam.

As for VTOLs and such, I don't think Jock's black helicopter is necessarily a downgrade. There were helicopters in HR as well.

I'm pretty sure this is it. Human Revolution, for example, was very lavish, and showed a lot of luxury and artsy designs, which is what you would expect with how they present the period as a Golden Age of Technology, hell, the game itself has a yellow tint, they want to show you this advancement, this grandeur, how everything is so great, so they can take that away later. From the ending of HR to MD you can start to see how the situation is getting more unstable and the façade of prosperity is falling apart, which could lead to the situation in DX. I can see that happening. And there's also the fact that, like this person mentioned, they're not completely more advanced than in DX, Denton is ages more advanced than Jensen, nanotechnology was only a dream in the latter's time. It could be made to fit, a future where there has been a regression, there's a dark age of sorts, more poverty, less outlandish shows of vanity, but the actual technology can be argued as more advanced. I can see it.
(We all know Eidos just wanted more creative freedom, sticking with DX's relatively grounded style would have made a lot of what they designed unfeasible, but it can be made to fit in universe, although I do think Eliza is too advanced).

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by Countess Isolde:

And DX1 tech is still better than HR. Nano-augmentation makes Adam Jensen look like a walking toolbox (compare him to Gunther), and JC is far, far more powerful than Adam.

But Adam Jensen can punch 100 men to unconsciousness as long as he had a steady stream of powerbars in his pocket, avoid all damage from falling, psychically affect people a la the Many, regenerate health without even needing nanomachines (son), hell he even shoots better despite being born human and having an un-augmented brain.

Obviously robot arms are cheapo compared to magic programmable viruses but Adam Jensen easily makes Gunther look like a useless POS in every way and Gunther had every reason to be more advanced.

[Darth Nihilus]

There are people who treats HR and MD as Deus Ex? SRSLY? LMAOLMAOLMAO

[Scrubwave]

Originally posted by Darth Nihilus:

There are people who treats HR and MD as Deus Ex? SRSLY? LMAOLMAOLMAO

They're not people.

[Jack left town]

One is a game designed by a man who played D&D with Bruce Sterling the other one has a fashion victim as its art director.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by Darth Nihilus:

There are people who treats HR and MD as Deus Ex? SRSLY? LMAOLMAOLMAO

HR is deffinitley closer to a Deus Ex game than MD tho
That's for sure

[dbelow_]

If you ask my opinion, HR should have been a sequel to the original Deus Ex, like invisible war, but good