DiRT Rally 2.0

DiRT Rally 2.0

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crisXI 2019 年 3 月 6 日 下午 1:59
Codemaster Statement on FFB
Hi all,

Thanks for all of your feedback so far. Just to let you know, we're working on a patch to address some of the most pressing issues that have been raised here. As soon as I have notes on confirmed fixes, I'll share them with you ASAP.

We're also looking into FFB as a priority, as we're aware a lot of you have raised concerns about how this feels. However, we just want to make clear that there is no easy fix for this; anything we change will affect all vehicles, surfaces and peripherals, so we have to be very thorough to ensure any changes we make will be positive across the board.

Cheers,
Christina

https://forums.codemasters.com/topic/34816-dirt-rally-20-v11-found-a-bug-post-it-here/?page=15&tab=comments#comment-405532

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Note: This is a repost from another thread. To communicate directly to Christina about game issues post here https://steamcommunity.com/app/690790/discussions/0/1798529872644763672/
最後修改者:crisXI; 2019 年 3 月 9 日 上午 2:38
引用自 the_ruthless:
Oh, yeah, there's some FFB now. (I have the old G27.) It actually works okay. Still, room for improvement, as I still cannot feel anything of this "degrading road surface" (what with deep grooves and so on), but other than that it is... fairly sensible, though somewhat vague. It just isn't impressive in a "WOAH, there's so much resistance" way, but you get enough information about what level of grip your car has to the surface to be quicker and more confident than things were without FFB.

And yeah, get it on sale. The brand new Scotland stages (and Colin McRae career thing) are actually quite good.
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Dwnld 2019 年 3 月 7 日 上午 11:43 
引用自 Unreal
引用自 Koly™
thanks, we all know that they will fix it, i'm not worry at all.

Interesting. How do you know that?
Not sure but he might be a psychic. Or he thinks he is.
Buff-My-Helmut 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:48 
Psychic DR 2 cheerleader.
{DDB} Ghostface and chill 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:51 
引用自 NVR2FST
Psychic DR 2 cheerleader.
Calling people out for liking the game...lol. Everyone can see that you and everyone else that doesnt have the game constantly posts on these forums because you desperately want the game to be patched so that you can buy it. Why else would all of you invest so much time in a game you dont own.
Terrapin 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:57 
I have tweaked mine until it is passable. I'm just happy to be playing now instead of sitting on the side-lines waiting for a fix.
最後修改者:Terrapin; 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:57
JakeDiggitty 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 12:59 
引用自 Trev65
scared it's gonna get ruined now. This is DiRT V1 EA to V2 all over again. The complainers will get their way and it'll be moon gravity physics all over again. Updates are about to get turned off. Want my version to stay as it is.

I'm with you, I also think the current version is quite good. I'm all for improvements, but please take your time and use caution not to mess up a good thing. I'm sure this is a challenge, thank you Codemasters for giving us such a great rally sim. 82 hours of fun here so far. - Cheers
最後修改者:JakeDiggitty; 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 1:17
Buff-My-Helmut 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 1:25 
引用自 NVR2FST
Psychic DR 2 cheerleader.
Calling people out for liking the game...lol. Everyone can see that you and everyone else that doesnt have the game constantly posts on these forums because you desperately want the game to be patched so that you can buy it. Why else would all of you invest so much time in a game you dont own.

I read where you said you speak American. LOL You know, the thread you got locked.
What is American? Never heard of that language before.
{DDB} Ghostface and chill 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:16 
引用自 NVR2FST
Calling people out for liking the game...lol. Everyone can see that you and everyone else that doesnt have the game constantly posts on these forums because you desperately want the game to be patched so that you can buy it. Why else would all of you invest so much time in a game you dont own.

I read where you said you speak American. LOL You know, the thread you got locked.
What is American? Never heard of that language before.

Point and case.
A total disregard of everything I just pointed out about sitting on this forum investing all of your free time and instead taking an out of context quote to try to make me look bad. If you read the thread you would understand what I was saying and why i said it. I know you were hoping to shift the attention to me but you really just made yourself look worse by quoting my post directed at you that you wont even acknowledge. I'm not going to waste me time explaining anything I said to you because you will no doubt ignore whatever you want in an attempt to try to make a point.

This is on par with attacking typos when your back is against the wall and you cant defend your point of view.


edit: I realize saying that you took a quote from me was a huge overstatement. You actually incorrectly paraphrased me. You are free to post my original quote where I said "I speak american" if you want to make yourself look worse

2nd Edit: Also, I'll address the whole "the thread you got locked" thing. Did you notice that someone had their post deleted from that thread when it got locked? Last time I checked all of mine were still there.
最後修改者:{DDB} Ghostface and chill; 2019 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:30
lich0 2019 年 3 月 8 日 上午 10:08 
We're also looking into FFB as a priority, as we're aware a lot of you have raised concerns about how this feels. However, we just want to make clear that there is no easy fix for this; anything we change will affect all vehicles, surfaces and peripherals, so we have to be very thorough to ensure any changes we make will be positive across the board.

Typical CM speak. They said the same thing when people reported stuff in DR and D4. Guess what, in the end none of it got fixed. Current FFB is staying as is I'm afraid.

引用自 RacingIvysaur
I am still baffled that the FFB was intended as it is. Anyone who tested and played before the release should be ashamed.

I'm pretty sure internal (and external) testing showed issues with FFB. I refuse to believe testers and developers don't play other games (sims). Probably someone decided at some point that working on FFB is too much effort or is low priority, so they shipped with what they had.
docdocca 2019 年 3 月 8 日 上午 10:44 
I am a rbr fan (again ...) but I think this game is the future of rally simulations. I think all the staff will work hard to find a really simulative ffb, as we all expect.Work hard, Codies, this game should be "simulation", not an keyboard arcade game ... I look forward to the next ffb patches !!
And, please, see also the damage model ... it is not possible to hit a rock at 120 km / h and have only a few damages to the lights and a puncture of the wheel ..:steamhappy:
Krull 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 4:22 
FFB should be a priority. Multiple times today alone, I've let go of the wheel on extra extra long sections. And the car never deviated. That's terrible. All the bumps, dips, rocks etc, should have done something.

Nothing. Wheel didn't move at speeds over 80mph. The only thing I feel is basically G forces in turns.

I truly hope they find a fix to this. I want to like this game. But every time I play, I become more and more agrivated with the minor things in this game.

Like having to adjust the ingame brightness everytime I begin a new stage. It's either so dark it's black, or so bright it's blinding. Never an in between. No other game on my computer has this problem, it's not a Nvidia issue or monitor issue. I've checked.

And I've written down over 40 separate bugs, anomalies or problems in the game. Ranging from shimmering grass that blinks in and out to broken wiper blades, then audio problems, brightness inconsistencies, certain physics that make no logical sense, and bugs bugs bugs. Then you have the stupid Phil comments at the end, that make me question if he was in the car with me. (I intentionally trashed a Mk II Escort and limped it in and ran the stage insanely slow, yet sated. "That felt fast, etc." or other stupid comments like that.)

I like the game, but I question why this game made it to the public in this condition.

I'm not bashing the game. It has potential. But....... It should be considered in beta stage at this point in time.
最後修改者:Krull; 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 4:25
Marius 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 4:29 
引用自 Michael Anderson
FFB should be a priority. ... should be considered in beta stage at this point in time.

I feel the same, see the saw, notice the same. This should be Early Acces or so, or a Beta. Not a released product.

Back to the drawning board and the basics for Codies.Your Racing-era is over. rFactor 2, Automoblista and Assetto Corsa took over.
Frey 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 5:11 
引用自 RacingIvysaur
引用自 Michael Anderson
FFB should be a priority. ... should be considered in beta stage at this point in time.

I feel the same, see the saw, notice the same. This should be Early Acces or so, or a Beta. Not a released product.

Back to the drawning board and the basics for Codies.Your Racing-era is over. rFactor 2, Automoblista and Assetto Corsa took over.

i think Codemasters are the king of rally, so the Rally-era has just started.

About F1, GT or Endurance the top sims are iRacing, AMS and rFactor2.

Assetto is far behind Raceroom, the worst in Assetto is the lack of front tyre feeling and the constant ice drifting feeling.
Even pCars 2 and Forza7 have a better tyre model than the old Assetto Corsa.
About Competizione it's not enough arcade to be fun and physics/FFB are not enough serious to be a pure sim like iR, AMS or rF2 (and the content is so poor).

But if you are a DR1 and AC fan i understand why you have some bad references.

About the FFB in DR2 it will come soon. If you can't wait go drift on AC.
最後修改者:Frey; 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 5:26
BOT Steven 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 5:19 
引用自 RacingIvysaur
引用自 Michael Anderson
FFB should be a priority. ... should be considered in beta stage at this point in time.

I feel the same, see the saw, notice the same. This should be Early Acces or so, or a Beta. Not a released product.

Back to the drawning board and the basics for Codies.Your Racing-era is over. rFactor 2, Automoblista and Assetto Corsa took over.

I fully agree
JayTac 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 5:44 
Just a heads up, you have to request a refund within a certain time period and also before you log 4 hours on the game. If I'm not mistaken. After that you're stuck with it and CM knows that which is why I believe they released such a vague statement. No promises were made so they can cover their selves when nothing changes. But they did acknowledge the issue hoping that will hold people off long enough before they can get their money back.

Think about it. They basically said they would have to re-work every car in the game in order to fix their broken FFB system. Don't be naive guys, it's not happening. I got my $85 back today. If a miracle happens I can always repurchase.
Krull 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 6:44 
Koly, I would agree, if this was an early access pass. I wouldn't be critical of the title. I would be OK with waiting as I am with ACC. But as a launch version. It's outright disrespectful to Codemasters consumers that it passed any level of QA. I'm not the type of person that complains. I like to analyze things and see it for what's It is. This game WILL be amazing, hopefully. Only if Codemasters eats thier ego and fixes the issues everyone is screaming about.

Also, there isn't any perfect sim. They all have thier strong points and weaknesses. What I care about is the polished product. How profesionallly crafted it is and the attention to detail that was had.

I personally always keep going back to PC2, not because I believe it's perfect I regards to physics, Tyre models etc. But because as it is in its current state. It's extremely polished. It explains menu options in great detail, it's virtually bug free. (I've never experienced a gltch, bug, or graphical anomaly.) Nothing feels broken and the user experience is top notch. I've had zero complaints. And that to me is worth my time.

ACC, while in Development. Is a pain to play both in VR and 2D, but it gets a pass until the finished product is finalized.

RF2, Dirt (Genre), F1, I Racing.

None are perfect. I judge a game by the final product as a consumer. And this game is losing its fun because of frustrating problems that should have been caught during the development phase. If anything, the game should have been postponed.
最後修改者:Krull; 2019 年 3 月 8 日 下午 6:47
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