FPS Stutter when aiming

[Dr. Groucho]

Hello, I'm having the issue as stated below, my FPS are pretty fine but whenever I aim or stop aiming with any kind of weapon or equipment the game freezes for a moment, like 1 second or so making it unplayable (sincie this is a shooter game)

-I have an i7-6700K , RTX 3080 Ti and 32GB of RAM

game build: v1.11.0.776871

What I did to try to solve the issue:
-Used dx12, useallavalablecores and similar commands
-Used a Standby List Cleaner
-Disabled all Windows Game Mode related settings
-Updated drivers and checked Windows updates
-Checked game files on steam
-Tried all common and recommended combinations of video settings in game
-Add the whole Steamapps folder into Exclusions list of my antivirus

What I found out:
-Overall Graphics settings do not affect the issue: on lowest settings and 33% scaling it still freezes while aiming, pretty much at the same rate than in epic settings
-Number of current players do not affect the issue: it makes the same stutter while playing in a full game just as in an emplty server
-It is not related to the GPU load: I ran MSI Afterburner and started to spam aim button in game, I achieved constant 4-7 FPS and constant stutter, I observed that during this period the registered load on muy GPY falls drastically and only jumps back when I stop clicking the aim button.

I have no clue about what causes this issue to go so bad and in such a specific moments that nonetheless are critical to gameplay, any kind of help is appreciated!

[Team17_Assistance]

Greetings Dr. Groucho,

Sorry to hear that this is happening - would it be possible to see your system information so that we can try to help? To do this:

1. Hold down the Windows Key and press R, the Run dialogue should appear > Type dxdiag in the available text field > Click OK
   
2. Click Save All Information > Save the file DxDiag.txt to your Desktop so it is easy to find
   
3. Open the .txt file, copy all the contents > Paste all the contents to a free text hosting service such as http://justpaste.it, http://textuploader.com or http://freetexthost.com
   
4. Copy the link to your post

Regards,

Team17 Support

[Friteuse]

Same issues for quite a while now, years...
◘ RTX 3070 Gaming X Trio OC with Afterburner (Core clock +140mhz / Memory clock +1200mhz) (Note : it also happens without OC)
◘ Ryzen 3600x (stock, no OC)
◘ 16gb DDR4 3200mhz 2*8 Dual Channel
◘ Playing at 2560 x 1440 / 144hz (Gsync/Vsync enabled)

It doesn't happen using DirectX 11 in-game, so no stuttering but then the FPS are too much impacted.
Playing with DirectX 12 with the -dx12 command brings a very good amount of FPS, but also stuttering.

Here are my specs :
https://justpaste.it/94wp9

[Dr. Groucho]

Originally posted by Team17_Assistance:

Greetings Dr. Groucho,

Sorry to hear that this is happening - would it be possible to see your system information so that we can try to help?

Team17 Support

Hello, yes of course, here is the DxDiag output: https://justpaste.it/8tmhf

[Team17_Assist]

Hi both,

Thanks for sharing those with us.

Can you both please do the following:

Please check for pending updates for your system via the steps below:

1. Select the Start button
   
2. Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update
   
3. Select Check for updates
   
4. After installing the update, select Check online for updates from Microsoft Update

Please disable any Razer software and test the game.

Can you please follow the steps in the link to perform a clean boot
A clean boot is being used to start your Windows device using a minimal set of drivers and startup programs.

Windows 10

1. Press Ctrl+Shift+Esc to open the Task Manager.
   
2. Click More Details.
   
3. Select the Startup tab.
   
4. Right-click on each item and select Disable.
   
5. Press Windows Key + R.
   
6. Type msconfig and press Enter.
   
7. On the Services tab click to select the Hide all Microsoft services checkbox, and then tap or click Disable all.
   
8. Click Apply and restart the computer.

Once this is done please launch the game to see if the issue still continues.

To re-enable your start-up programs:

1. Follow the steps above again but enable all of your programs and services.
   
2. Then click Apply and restart your computer.

Get back to us when you can.

Regards,
Team17 Support

[Dr. Groucho]

Hello again, an update of the situation: it was still working poorly and I've decided to make the one last drasting test I could do by myself, I wiped the had disk and intalled a fresh Windows on top of it. And it worked! I dont know what was the specificu problem in my old Windows Build but now it works, thak you for your help!

[Shrooms]

bloody drastic to have to do that to play this broken game

[Shrooms]

not broken just unoptimised and very little being done about it and the aim stutter jesus been there since RELEASE!

[TS2]

Originally posted by Shrooms:

not broken just unoptimised and very little being done about it and the aim stutter jesus been there since RELEASE!

A not so drastic solution involves setting Shadow Quality to High or Ultra. Low and Medium tiers for this setting have aggressive LODing of shadows, to where it hinders FPS when aiming more than it helps for some reason.

[Dr. Groucho]

Originally posted by TS2:

Originally posted by Shrooms:

not broken just unoptimised and very little being done about it and the aim stutter jesus been there since RELEASE!

A not so drastic solution involves setting Shadow Quality to High or Ultra. Low and Medium tiers for this setting have aggressive LODing of shadows, to where it hinders FPS when aiming more than it helps for some reason.

Welp, for me it didnt work, I tried a lot of different setups and none did the trick

[TS2]

Originally posted by Dr. Groucho:

Originally posted by TS2:

A not so drastic solution involves setting Shadow Quality to High or Ultra. Low and Medium tiers for this setting have aggressive LODing of shadows, to where it hinders FPS when aiming more than it helps for some reason.

Welp, for me it didnt work, I tried a lot of different setups and none did the trick

Unfortunate. Out of curiosity, uh, what does the home electrical wiring setup look like? Is everything connected to a single power strip going to the wall outlet, is something directly connected to the wall outlet itself, or are multiple power strips and outlet splitters involved?

[Friteuse]

I fixed it, now I have a smooth experience, no more suttering. I'm quoting the author of the message I found and what to do :

Originally posted by FULLCOMMUNISM:

I am here, and its my time to shine! I was in the EXACT same boat as you, like you described my issues to a "T". Let me walk you through the fix. Some of what I am about to tell you to do will make no sense. I understand that. Just try it, and then come back and tell me about your 120 fps. Remember I said it will make no sense.

The single biggest thing to do to increase framerate among those that have this issue is the...FOV. Now I know you are thinking, what does FOV have to do with framerate? No damn clue. But just follow along.

Set FOV to 100 or higher - most important! (FOV=115.000000 in GameUserSettings.ini for example)

bAnalyticsEnabled=False in GameUserSettings.ini (disable analytics)

Remove all LastGPUBenchmarkResult entries in GameUserSettings.ini

FullscreenMode=1 (Windowed Full Screen) in GameUserSettings.ini. MAYBE to set option 'Disable fullscreen optimizations' in "Compatible" tab of properties of "HLL-Win64-Shipping.exe" file.

Nvidia Control Panel -> "Manage 3D settings" -> Application settings -> Power Management Mode = Maximum Performance for "HLL-Win64-Shipping.exe" file.

Remove the whole [ScalabilityGroups] section in GameUserSettings.ini to benchmark your PC after first launch. This may or may not be present.

In game launch options:-dx12 -USEALLAVAILABLECORES -refresh 144 (where 144 - monitor's refresh rate)

If you changed video settings, so exit game and relaunch it, because after changing video settings in any way (better or worse) FPS falls down for a 20 or more points, IDK why.

After this you will have SMOOTH 120-140 FPS without any stutters, especially when aiming, on EPIC settings (SSAO=Off) instead of 40-70 FPS and stutters.

The path to the GameUserSettings.ini file is :
C:\Users\*yourusername*\AppData\Local\HLL\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

[TS2]

Originally posted by Friteuse:

I fixed it, now I have a smooth experience, no more suttering. I'm quoting the author of the message I found and what to do :

Originally posted by FULLCOMMUNISM:

I am here, and its my time to shine! I was in the EXACT same boat as you, like you described my issues to a "T". Let me walk you through the fix. Some of what I am about to tell you to do will make no sense. I understand that. Just try it, and then come back and tell me about your 120 fps. Remember I said it will make no sense.

The single biggest thing to do to increase framerate among those that have this issue is the...FOV. Now I know you are thinking, what does FOV have to do with framerate? No damn clue. But just follow along.

Set FOV to 100 or higher - most important! (FOV=115.000000 in GameUserSettings.ini for example)

bAnalyticsEnabled=False in GameUserSettings.ini (disable analytics)

Remove all LastGPUBenchmarkResult entries in GameUserSettings.ini

FullscreenMode=1 (Windowed Full Screen) in GameUserSettings.ini. MAYBE to set option 'Disable fullscreen optimizations' in "Compatible" tab of properties of "HLL-Win64-Shipping.exe" file.

Nvidia Control Panel -> "Manage 3D settings" -> Application settings -> Power Management Mode = Maximum Performance for "HLL-Win64-Shipping.exe" file.

Remove the whole [ScalabilityGroups] section in GameUserSettings.ini to benchmark your PC after first launch. This may or may not be present.

In game launch options:-dx12 -USEALLAVAILABLECORES -refresh 144 (where 144 - monitor's refresh rate)

If you changed video settings, so exit game and relaunch it, because after changing video settings in any way (better or worse) FPS falls down for a 20 or more points, IDK why.

After this you will have SMOOTH 120-140 FPS without any stutters, especially when aiming, on EPIC settings (SSAO=Off) instead of 40-70 FPS and stutters.

The path to the GameUserSettings.ini file is :
C:\Users\*yourusername*\AppData\Local\HLL\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor

Some of these settings can either be done in-game, or are a placebo (-refresh defaults to 0, or the system value, and -useallavailablecores might be something the game does already).

However, Setting -dx12 in combination with the Fullscreen Windowed mode is known to work, as well as maybe the NVIDIA power plan setting. Definitely try those.

[Friteuse]

Yes but the most important changes here are the ones made in GameUserSettings.ini I would say, since like most players I already had those commands lines.

[TS2]

Originally posted by Friteuse:

Yes but the most important changes here are the ones made in GameUserSettings.ini I would say, since like most players I already had those commands lines.

Of course. Although, in my experience, setting bAnalyticsEnabled=False would just create a parameter set to True further down the list of settings, rendering it null and void. That was why I stopped doing it.

Purging the Last GPU Benchmark Result entries to clear unwarranted caching of those results may be ideal, and setting the NVIDIA Control Panel power plan to Maximize Performance certainly is, though, as is Disabling Fullscreen Optimizations to remove the forced borderless windowed mode trickery Windows 10 and 11 employs for Fullscreen-Only applications.

[Dr. Groucho]

Welp, of that whole list I didnt try changing FOV and Analytics so idk maybe that did the trick?

Originally posted by TS2:

Originally posted by Dr. Groucho:

Welp, for me it didnt work, I tried a lot of different setups and none did the trick

Unfortunate. Out of curiosity, uh, what does the home electrical wiring setup look like? Is everything connected to a single power strip going to the wall outlet, is something directly connected to the wall outlet itself, or are multiple power strips and outlet splitters involved?

5 years old electrical wiring in a new apartment, supply well distributed. the power source gives more than necessary to feed both CPU and graphics card at max use. Well thought though