Smaller game modes.. WHY!??

[Madmonkey68]

New roadmap stated that devs will implement smaller gamemodes with smaller timed matches to cater to a portion of the fanbase who doesn't even like playing the game.

This is pointless and unnecessary update.
Hell Let Loose isn't exactly Call of Duty, stop catering to the casual community who dont like anything, who hop from game to game, who all they want is sweaty-twitch-dopamine-infested-cringe emote-hero shooters which have like 10 minute matches, and which plauge this oversatutared market of trash games.

Improve Hell Let Loose, build upon it. Don't turn it into something totally different.

[xBCxRangers]

Yeah that concerns me a bit as well. But as much as we don''t like it, we did have many threads asking for this COD like nonsense.

But at the same time, they mentioned the "Win 10 store", which i would think, means its coming to Game Pass. Meaning an almost infinite amount of players that may want a more casual experience

[Strontium Dog]

They've just spent a shed load of money buying the IP and they need new players to buy the game to get some revenue back before hll2.

[TWB*Clell_Miller]

引用自 Madmonkey68：

New roadmap stated that devs will implement smaller gamemodes with smaller timed matches to cater to a portion of the fanbase who doesn't even like playing the game.

This is pointless and unnecessary update.
Hell Let Loose isn't exactly Call of Duty, stop catering to the casual community who dont like anything, who hop from game to game, who all they want is sweaty-twitch-dopamine-infested-cringe emote-hero shooters which have like 10 minute matches, and which plauge this oversatutared market of trash games.

Improve Hell Let Loose, build upon it. Don't turn it into something totally different.

Well I can only hope this new game mode will be distinguishable from the others on the server list.

[[OTG] floss_uk]

easier to make the maps equals more money, when they are paid dlc..

[pipi long stocking]

i fear that this will become the long feared (by HLL purists) run n' gun version of the game, with smaller maps and shorter game times. i actually developed a word for it a loooong time ago, "consolization" , which means catering to a more limited mindset and ability i.e. cant play that long, gets bored easy etc. and to me Hell Let Loose is really close to being fully consolized. meaning HLL2 will probably be developed with console in mind, and Pc as an afterthought. "trust me", as i've seen this multiple times in my PC gaming career, 1998 to now.

we (i believe most) veteran HLL players have fought long and hard for a game like this as it is now (bugs/slow devs not withstanding) , and it seems like the new devs are listening to a really really vocal minority (ie. who asked for hand signals/non-mic communication? who asked for cleaning up of animations? who asked for new game modes? )

i believe that this game is about to lose its identity. and it was a good ride while it lasted. still my favorite game of the last 10 years or so.

[Emil]

The map itself is smaller, likely because it's entirely urban meaning it's more demanding rendering. As far as I can tell they haven't explicitly stated smaller teams, but shorter time is good when you don't have 120+ minutes to spare, but still want to participate for the whole duration. Perhaps chill for a moment and see how they'll implement it.

I wouldn't want HLL to diverge from what makes it unique compared to BF or CoD either, and I think the developers are well aware of it after watching the full video. Warfare is always going to be the foundation of the game, but that doesn't mean the game shouldn't have offensive mode or this new skirmish mode. Perhaps in preparation of the campaign.

This just goes to show some people never get satisfied. They tell you they want QoL and when devs say QoL plus something more, then they say do not want something more, and when devs delay the British faction into U14 then they say the game lacks new content and when British will be released, we are back to square one with complaints over QoL.

[SheevPalps]

If they just gave you partial XP credit for the match you can't fully commit to this would solve the issue that probably most are feeling when it comes to wanting shorter length in matches. Not everyone can always commit to a full match. Stuff happens. The bigger complaint is them adding an in-game store...

[Cipher]

they could avoid doing this by making the XP system less dog.

[blackkray]

some people dont wanna spend an hour and half playing

[KilroyWH78]

i see this as an opportunity for different gameplay, my only real concern is if they will reduce the player cap for this game mode, id rather have it keep 100 player no matter what.

smaller skirmishes, as they said is an alternative to games that tend to last over an hour, which i do like, but it also opens updifferent types of battles, like danzig.

this also opens opportunities for other factions like fighting against japan, which doesnt have an arsenal that can match the US, especially tank wise, or something really different like the italian invasion greece or the german invasion of crete, maybe even narvik or the spanish civil war

[Pr0fessor]

Winston Churchill once said: "The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute talk with the man on the street."

Putting this quote in perspective, and referring to what others have said, sadly large corporations tend to focus on large market segments, and that of course is your average player. One should seek pride in catering to a niche segment.

By designing everything for this fictional "average player" you get average game design.
Watered down versions that do not excel in anything.

I can understand the reasoning why T17/BM is doing this but this will cannibalize the player-base in my opinion. There is literally no single longterm HLL player that is requesting smaller maps. Topics like smaller maps hardly get mentioned on these steam forums also.

People that want to play "Hop in for 15 minutes" are not the type of people that play HLL.
HLL, is more akin to a board game, it is something you prepare and take your time for.

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

引用自 pipi long stocking：

we (i believe most) veteran HLL players have fought long and hard for a game like this as it is now (bugs/slow devs not withstanding).

The pre carentan playerbase is spinning in their f*cking grave w/ this statement.

[Roovka]

引用自 Madmonkey68：

New roadmap stated that devs will implement smaller gamemodes with smaller timed matches to cater to a portion of the fanbase who doesn't even like playing the game.

This is pointless and unnecessary update.
Hell Let Loose isn't exactly Call of Duty, stop catering to the casual community who dont like anything, who hop from game to game, who all they want is sweaty-twitch-dopamine-infested-cringe emote-hero shooters which have like 10 minute matches, and which plauge this oversatutared market of trash games.

Improve Hell Let Loose, build upon it. Don't turn it into something totally different.

If you think this game will become like other fast paced twitch friendly games then I don't think you really understand HLL's pacing or style. Even with smaller maps it changes literally nothing about the gameplay.

This is self-inflicted anxiety. How about letting one update happen to see if it's worth going full "world is ending" mode?

[Merp17]

If the maps and gameplay loop for the new modes are like RS2 than it will be good.

[Madmonkey68]

引用自 Merp17：

If the maps and gameplay loop for the new modes are like RS2 than it will be good.

RS2 was terrible imo. I hope not