Hackers are Rampant

[Smokey Smoke]

The amount of hackers right now is absolutely insane what is happening?

[dust1]

oh em gee its a hacker, nah bro just my gigabyte monitor is better than your ips 1080 aoc monitor ;)

[KingKickAss]

Originally posted by Roovka:

Can you provide the comment where you think I said X/Y/Z?

Its unreal how overpowered this quote is. The amount of people I've seen in the steam forums that completely fold when asked to cite something that was said, is crazy to me.
Its genuine NPC behavior.

[[MJ-12] Majestic-12]

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

Originally posted by dust1:

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/AORUS-FO27Q3#kf scroll to middle of the page "tactical features" to understand how eagle eye works and why you should get a gigabyte monitor like the rest of us instead of accusing people of hacking lmao

Oh wow lol. That's an interesting feature for a monitor to just come with.

800€ to "cheat" :)

I'll just crank up the brightness to 200% thank you

[Roovka]

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

Originally posted by Roovka:

Can you provide the comment where you think I said X/Y/Z?

Its unreal how overpowered this quote is. The amount of people I've seen in the steam forums that completely fold when asked to cite something that was said, is crazy to me.
Its genuine NPC behavior.

It just keeps happening over and over again from the exact same type of person lol

[dust1]

Originally posted by MJ-12 Majestic-12:

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

Oh wow lol. That's an interesting feature for a monitor to just come with.

800€ to "cheat" :)

I'll just crank up the brightness to 200% thank you

i only use eagle eye, makes you go from 2-3 kills and 21 deaths to 29 kills and 10 deaths lol

[dust1]

it really just comes down to bad map design tbh

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Mad Jack:

Originally posted by Roovka:

It just keeps happening over and over again from the exact same type of person lol

You're not the saint you try to pretemd to be so shut it. I remember a bunch of threads where you make stuff up out of thin air to push your cheating denying / git gud agenda or whatever it is that keeps you coming back to these threads to "win" stupid arguments. You regularly dive into people's comment history when you have no arguments left, try HARDEST to shift it to a personal level where we then all witness your pathological joy of hurting frustrated (and probably likewise stupid) people and see how it turns you on. You're pushing it too far now, stop.

Yes, that's always the case with these trolls, it's like a law of nature. They have to attack you personally to be able to troll, and in doing so, they only expose themselves. That's what I like about trolls; you can usually spot them after the first three lines. Because by then they've already started completely ignoring the actual topic.

It's also frightening that 99% of people really don't have the slightest clue about cheating and just keep repeating this one illogical sentence. They keep saying they've never seen a cheater. As if cheaters were walking around with a sign that says "I cheat," as if cheaters only ever have 200/0 stats.

Most people have never heard of things like a "humanized aimbot," but they act like they can smell cheaters from a mile away. If someone claims they've never seen a cheater, you should ask them how a cheater look's like. They usually don't respond, and if they do, it's just nonsense, most of the time...

[JohnnyBanana]

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

Originally posted by Mad Jack:

You're not the saint you try to pretemd to be so shut it. I remember a bunch of threads where you make stuff up out of thin air to push your cheating denying / git gud agenda or whatever it is that keeps you coming back to these threads to "win" stupid arguments. You regularly dive into people's comment history when you have no arguments left, try HARDEST to shift it to a personal level where we then all witness your pathological joy of hurting frustrated (and probably likewise stupid) people and see how it turns you on. You're pushing it too far now, stop.

Yes, that's always the case with these trolls, it's like a law of nature. They have to attack you personally to be able to troll, and in doing so, they only expose themselves. That's what I like about trolls; you can usually spot them after the first three lines. Because by then they've already started completely ignoring the actual topic.

It's also frightening that 99% of people really don't have the slightest clue about cheating and just keep repeating this one illogical sentence. They keep saying they've never seen a cheater. As if cheaters were walking around with a sign that says "I cheat," as if cheaters only ever have 200/0 stats.

Most people have never heard of things like a "humanized aimbot," but they act like they can smell cheaters from a mile away. If someone claims they've never seen a cheater, you should ask them how a cheater look's like. They usually don't respond, and if they do, it's just nonsense, most of the time...

Ah the classic hackusator trope, everyone is to stupid to see a cheater but me...

[JohnnyBanana]

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

Cheaters don't run around with signs saying they're cheaters; most of them actually try hard not to attract attention, since their undetectable cheats are very expensive (100$+ per month) and they definitely don't want to be banned through reports. I really don't know where this stupid belief comes from that cheaters can be identified so easily. Most of you don't seem to have the slightest idea about hackers and cheaters, nor have you researched the topic properly, as it seems.

I have asked this before and never gotten a response so here, how do you know for certain that they are using a hack/cheat? Can you objectively say that yes this person is using a cheat and what is your method for determining if someone is using a cheat vs just being a skilled player? You said that cheaters do not make it obvious so what is that tell for you that you have learned that makes it so you can be certain that it is a cheater?

[RedSeptember]

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

Arent you getting tired switching accounts? I really feel sad for you.

I feel sad for you, all you do is live on here.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by RedSeptember:

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

Arent you getting tired switching accounts? I really feel sad for you.

I feel sad for you, all you do is live on here.

In my personal opinion, One should rather admire his dedication to this topic. It far overshadows the ignorance many people have towards it. The topic of "cheating" has been downplayed for far too long, which has ensured that an illegal billion-dollar industry is now based on it. That in itself makes it clear how important it is to repeatedly address this topic, and we've only just touched on the snowflake on the iceberg. We haven't even talked about famous cheating streamers and game companies that promote this business themselves. The YouTube channel "Call of Shame" has already done a lot in this regard!

[Hylie Pistof]

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

Yes, and again, someone with absolutely no clue about the topic. First of all, some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater, which, given the reality, is a completely nonsensical statement. Furthermore, you completely ignore the fact that there are many different types of cheaters. There are plenty of cheaters who cheat purely for the pleasure of annoying others. I've been intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years, and I can guarantee you that there's no problem in competitive multiplayer games that's bigger than the cheating problem. The videos I posted, for example, also show this. Yes, and as I said, every developer of such a game would tell you the same thing if they were honest ;-)

well this sounds like you have the same "issue" as any conspiracy theorist. beeing "intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years" is a sign you should talk about with your therapist.

your belittleing comment about me not having a clue is another sign of your arrogance and fanatic ignorance to the impact of cheaters in a game like HLL (hint... its not huge, considering the size of the playerbase (quite low actualy) even less then notable).

as for your totaly silly statement that "some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater" to be untrue... well how would you know? if they didnt see or noticed any cheater (who arent denied, learn to read FFS) just means they are not as obvious and neglectable in regard to the player count.
some people drive their lifelong without an accident, that doesnt mean there are non or they are good drivers!!
if you see cheaters in every game then YOU have a serious problem (do you see them in real life too?)

as for the "competitive scene"... i belive people are far more aware there, then in regular random games. most do check who is playing and know eachother. there is much less cheating in HLL then in many other games that have far more players involved and not a clan based and more personal community. this is obviously not such a huge thing there or those clans would join the countless threads about cheaters.

at last, yes alot of people in the internet and online games just troll around to bugger others. but think about the nonsense here, paying for games and cheats to frack others free time gets boring at some point. they dont play the game, just sit around and let the scripts do whatever.
they pay for crap that isnt even entertaining - exept when people like you fill the games forum and any related medias with unsustainable and often unproven claims about the impact of cheaters in a friggin game.
but they will leave after a while and go to the next game, where they again have no real impact.

now you can go one and call everyone who disagrees names. thats actualy everything these threads are good for, insulting others.

[Stevie Wonder]

Originally posted by Hylie Pistof:

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

Yes, and again, someone with absolutely no clue about the topic. First of all, some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater, which, given the reality, is a completely nonsensical statement. Furthermore, you completely ignore the fact that there are many different types of cheaters. There are plenty of cheaters who cheat purely for the pleasure of annoying others. I've been intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years, and I can guarantee you that there's no problem in competitive multiplayer games that's bigger than the cheating problem. The videos I posted, for example, also show this. Yes, and as I said, every developer of such a game would tell you the same thing if they were honest ;-)

well this sounds like you have the same "issue" as any conspiracy theorist. beeing "intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years" is a sign you should talk about with your therapist.

your belittleing comment about me not having a clue is another sign of your arrogance and fanatic ignorance to the impact of cheaters in a game like HLL (hint... its not huge, considering the size of the playerbase (quite low actualy) even less then notable).

as for your totaly silly statement that "some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater" to be untrue... well how would you know? if they didnt see or noticed any cheater (who arent denied, learn to read FFS) just means they are not as obvious and neglectable in regard to the player count.
some people drive their lifelong without an accident, that doesnt mean there are non or they are good drivers!!
if you see cheaters in every game then YOU have a serious problem (do you see them in real life too?)

as for the "competitive scene"... i belive people are far more aware there, then in regular random games. most do check who is playing and know eachother. there is much less cheating in HLL then in many other games that have far more players involved and not a clan based and more personal community. this is obviously not such a huge thing there or those clans would join the countless threads about cheaters.

at last, yes alot of people in the internet and online games just troll around to bugger others. but think about the nonsense here, paying for games and cheats to frack others free time gets boring at some point. they dont play the game, just sit around and let the scripts do whatever.
they pay for crap that isnt even entertaining - exept when people like you fill the games forum and any related medias with unsustainable and often unproven claims about the impact of cheaters in a friggin game.
but they will leave after a while and go to the next game, where they again have no real impact.

now you can go one and call everyone who disagrees names. thats actualy everything these threads are good for, insulting others.

there is much less cheating in HLL then in many other games...how do you know this?

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Hylie Pistof:

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

Yes, and again, someone with absolutely no clue about the topic. First of all, some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater, which, given the reality, is a completely nonsensical statement. Furthermore, you completely ignore the fact that there are many different types of cheaters. There are plenty of cheaters who cheat purely for the pleasure of annoying others. I've been intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years, and I can guarantee you that there's no problem in competitive multiplayer games that's bigger than the cheating problem. The videos I posted, for example, also show this. Yes, and as I said, every developer of such a game would tell you the same thing if they were honest ;-)

well this sounds like you have the same "issue" as any conspiracy theorist. beeing "intensively involved with this topic for over 25 years" is a sign you should talk about with your therapist.

your belittleing comment about me not having a clue is another sign of your arrogance and fanatic ignorance to the impact of cheaters in a game like HLL (hint... its not huge, considering the size of the playerbase (quite low actualy) even less then notable).

as for your totaly silly statement that "some people in this thread claim that they've never seen a cheater" to be untrue... well how would you know? if they didnt see or noticed any cheater (who arent denied, learn to read FFS) just means they are not as obvious and neglectable in regard to the player count.
some people drive their lifelong without an accident, that doesnt mean there are non or they are good drivers!!
if you see cheaters in every game then YOU have a serious problem (do you see them in real life too?)

as for the "competitive scene"... i belive people are far more aware there, then in regular random games. most do check who is playing and know eachother. there is much less cheating in HLL then in many other games that have far more players involved and not a clan based and more personal community. this is obviously not such a huge thing there or those clans would join the countless threads about cheaters.

at last, yes alot of people in the internet and online games just troll around to bugger others. but think about the nonsense here, paying for games and cheats to frack others free time gets boring at some point. they dont play the game, just sit around and let the scripts do whatever.
they pay for crap that isnt even entertaining - exept when people like you fill the games forum and any related medias with unsustainable and often unproven claims about the impact of cheaters in a friggin game.
but they will leave after a while and go to the next game, where they again have no real impact.

now you can go one and call everyone who disagrees names. thats actualy everything these threads are good for, insulting others.

I'll tell you what's arrogant: pretending to know something about a topic without having looked into it and then trying to tell others something that's not true, based on nothing. That's exactly what most people here are doing, saying things like "I've never seen a cheater in HLL, so it's not a problem" or "the cheating problem isn't big because the player base isn't big." That's not only arrogant, but also wrong and, in my personal opinion, stupid. If a player base has 10 players and 3 of them cheat, you have a massive cheating problem. The fact that people say they haven't seen any cheaters and believe this indicates a low cheater count is the mistake, and I've explained that several times already. You're basically even confirming it with your own statements here (thx).

It's also perfectly normal that I've been doing this for 25 years; the developers of anti-cheat software do it too, by the way. This is called "further education" and is probably foreign to you, which wouldn't surprise me.

I can only repeat myself once again and advise all of you to educate yourself more on this topic. Because most people who have never done so will have their jaws drop when they realize how deep this rabbit hole really is...

[Clean_Shot]

Originally posted by Grim@FU_BARRACUDA:

So here for all those who claim they've never seen a cheater in HLL...

(The following videos are only examples to support my statements)

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hell+let+loose+cheats

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I don't support cheaters, play fair and follow the rules!!!
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Cheaters don't run around with signs saying they're cheaters; most of them actually try hard not to attract attention, since their undetectable cheats are very expensive (100$+ per month) and they definitely don't want to be banned through reports. I really don't know where this stupid belief comes from that cheaters can be identified so easily. Most of you don't seem to have the slightest idea about hackers and cheaters, nor have you researched the topic properly, as it seems. If it were otherwise, you wouldn't keep coming up with this nonsense statement that you haven't seen any cheaters yet. It's almost 100% certain that every single one of you has seen one without realizing it. For example, there are so-called "humanized aimbots" that are supposed to mimic human movements. But there are also cheats that don't run on the actual computer, but on a second computer and only display wall hack overlays there, thats how streamers cheat for example.

To give you an idea of ​​how many hackers and cheaters there are who create cheats and use them in gaming, I have two videos for you from other games that should serve as examples to show you the reality...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkTqtDEQZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek

I hope this nonsense about there being no cheaters is finally over. Because I can promise you, even the developers of this game know how stupid this is. They see how many cheat engine bobs are banned by EAC every day, and those are just the low-level cheaters. The number of unreported cases is much higher, and the devs know it, too.

Cheers ;-)

skill issue.