Historical Accuracy at Stalingrad

[Augustus]

Having watched the new gameplay videos on the U10 maps, I was somewhat sad to see IS-1s, Panthers, and Tigers at Stalingrad. Some of the loadouts also seemed out of place, such as the STG 44. I understand that everyone is familiar with the loadouts and tanks from the Western Front, so I understand why they have been included. Do the Devs plan to remove weapons like the STG 44 from the Stalingrad map at some point (maybe replace it with something else)? Also, do the Devs still plan to have a historical uniform rule/mode for those whom don't want to see winter clothing being worn on D-Day?

[Monkey89brains]

Автор сообщения: Roninman

Автор сообщения: pipi long stocking

that is how ridiculous those people sound. they want realism. however, only their flavor of the month version of it. lol

And in your words you want Battlefied

Yes, battlefeild very bad game. Sell many copies but why? Because people do not realize realism is best for tense game playt. Battlefeild act like squad based gameplay but is actual twitch shooter and noobs who like battlefeld do not realize that big EA trick tem by providing sub par experience. I do not play batllefeild because lack of realism. I personally would have joined the army to be infantry and possibly airborne or special forces (recruiter said I have right stuff!) but I cannot on my honor let another person degrade or shout att me so I would probably end up hitting the drill sergent if he yell at me, so I play realistic game instead, and realism is very important to immersion. I personally leave server whenStalingrad come up because panther was not deployed until Kursk 43, and also the T34 is the 43 model not the 42 or 41 model, and also JS1 is not used till 43 and BA 10 was in decline as usage. I also leave normandy servers if I see too many STG because STG was mostly sent to Eastern front and Italy and very rare in normandy who were stationed units not expecting combat. Is very bad realisms cause me many sleepless nights. DEVS PLESE FIX YOU PROMISE REALISMS PLEASE FIX EVIL DEVS/

AND BEFOre anyone says they no add retextures for correct vehicles and weapons because game size already large and oplayer will not one 100 gb of textures. This false. Fact. I wi;l happy to instal over 1 TB of texture to have realism. RTealism is core reason we playh this game, all other things are secondary. DEVS FIOX THIS PLEASSSE

[pipi long stocking]

Автор сообщения: Monkey89brains

Автор сообщения: Roninman

And in your words you want Battlefied

Yes, battlefeild very bad game. Sell many copies but why? Because people do not realize realism is best for tense game playt. Battlefeild act like squad based gameplay but is actual twitch shooter and noobs who like battlefeld do not realize that big EA trick tem by providing sub par experience. I do not play batllefeild because lack of realism. I personally would have joined the army to be infantry and possibly airborne or special forces (recruiter said I have right stuff!) but I cannot on my honor let another person degrade or shout att me so I would probably end up hitting the drill sergent if he yell at me, so I play realistic game instead, and realism is very important to immersion. I personally leave server whenStalingrad come up because panther was not deployed until Kursk 43, and also the T34 is the 43 model not the 42 or 41 model, and also JS1 is not used till 43 and BA 10 was in decline as usage. I also leave normandy servers if I see too many STG because STG was mostly sent to Eastern front and Italy and very rare in normandy who were stationed units not expecting combat. Is very bad realisms cause me many sleepless nights. DEVS PLESE FIX YOU PROMISE REALISMS PLEASE FIX EVIL DEVS/

AND BEFOre anyone says they no add retextures for correct vehicles and weapons because game size already large and oplayer will not one 100 gb of textures. This false. Fact. I wi;l happy to instal over 1 TB of texture to have realism. RTealism is core reason we playh this game, all other things are secondary. DEVS FIOX THIS PLEASSSE

i have completely uninstalled Hell Let Loose, because as an overweight female, i feel i am not represented accurately in the game. since in the war department (USA army) there were actually overweight females. and that is just sexist, misogynistic , and cruel of the devs.

the realism in this game is bad.

in fact i have deleted all games with word "hell" in the title, or DLC title, because of how bad Hell Let Loose is with realism.

as another fact, I'm developing a game called "Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight" , as counter to the poor production applications of the "Hell Let Loose" devs.

as another fact, yet, (still reading plebes?), I have decided that Hell Let Loose is not a realistically accurate name, since indeed hell is not let loose. since there is no proof of Hell other than descriptions and books. making anything in this game unrealistic. this game should be called " World War 2 Accurate Simulator that makes your little mind think you're a soldier let loose"

until shaving , and all the above is fixed. i will not play this game. its simply not edgy and realistic for me anymore.

for all the "muh realizzzms" comments i make, i finally agree that this game is not realistic at all.

[Monkey89brains]

Автор сообщения: pipi long stocking

Автор сообщения: Monkey89brains

Yes, battlefeild very bad game. Sell many copies but why? Because people do not realize realism is best for tense game playt. Battlefeild act like squad based gameplay but is actual twitch shooter and noobs who like battlefeld do not realize that big EA trick tem by providing sub par experience. I do not play batllefeild because lack of realism. I personally would have joined the army to be infantry and possibly airborne or special forces (recruiter said I have right stuff!) but I cannot on my honor let another person degrade or shout att me so I would probably end up hitting the drill sergent if he yell at me, so I play realistic game instead, and realism is very important to immersion. I personally leave server whenStalingrad come up because panther was not deployed until Kursk 43, and also the T34 is the 43 model not the 42 or 41 model, and also JS1 is not used till 43 and BA 10 was in decline as usage. I also leave normandy servers if I see too many STG because STG was mostly sent to Eastern front and Italy and very rare in normandy who were stationed units not expecting combat. Is very bad realisms cause me many sleepless nights. DEVS PLESE FIX YOU PROMISE REALISMS PLEASE FIX EVIL DEVS/

AND BEFOre anyone says they no add retextures for correct vehicles and weapons because game size already large and oplayer will not one 100 gb of textures. This false. Fact. I wi;l happy to instal over 1 TB of texture to have realism. RTealism is core reason we playh this game, all other things are secondary. DEVS FIOX THIS PLEASSSE

i have completely uninstalled Hell Let Loose, because as an overweight female, i feel i am not represented accurately in the game. since in the war department (USA army) there were actually overweight females. and that is just sexist, misogynistic , and cruel of the devs.

the realism in this game is bad.

in fact i have deleted all games with word "hell" in the title, or DLC title, because of how bad Hell Let Loose is with realism.

as another fact, I'm developing a game called "Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight" , as counter to the poor production applications of the "Hell Let Loose" devs.

as another fact, yet, (still reading plebes?), I have decided that Hell Let Loose is not a realistically accurate name, since indeed hell is not let loose. since there is no proof of Hell other than descriptions and books. making anything in this game unrealistic. this game should be called " World War 2 Accurate Simulator that makes your little mind think you're a soldier let loose"

until shaving , and all the above is fixed. i will not play this game. its simply not edgy and realistic for me anymore.

for all the "muh realizzzms" comments i make, i finally agree that this game is not realistic at all.

Yes, shgaving is very important game mechanic. Vetry realistic, much depth added through mecahnic tied to daily life, since we accomplish living the lives of everyday soldier lives living their lives onn the battlefront and the experince they lived in this game.

But you do not seem sencere? no? You want to mock the immersion that we seek in this game, just because big blue ball above allie heads and tank crew is only 3 man and mp40 more common than kar 98k, this not mean that game can not be realistic one day. Are are really overweight woman? Shoulf not be overweight and in military is not realistic. Army has strict PT tests, no? My ♥♥♥♥♥♥ army do, dois USA not? DEVS DO BETTER, fix game and remove troll like this. He mock but you promise realizems during kick start and not deliver. Game is trash I no play buit I post here to hope that gmae get dfix.

[pipi long stocking]

Автор сообщения: Monkey89brains

Автор сообщения: pipi long stocking

i have completely uninstalled Hell Let Loose, because as an overweight female, i feel i am not represented accurately in the game. since in the war department (USA army) there were actually overweight females. and that is just sexist, misogynistic , and cruel of the devs.

the realism in this game is bad.

in fact i have deleted all games with word "hell" in the title, or DLC title, because of how bad Hell Let Loose is with realism.

as another fact, I'm developing a game called "Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight" , as counter to the poor production applications of the "Hell Let Loose" devs.

as another fact, yet, (still reading plebes?), I have decided that Hell Let Loose is not a realistically accurate name, since indeed hell is not let loose. since there is no proof of Hell other than descriptions and books. making anything in this game unrealistic. this game should be called " World War 2 Accurate Simulator that makes your little mind think you're a soldier let loose"

until shaving , and all the above is fixed. i will not play this game. its simply not edgy and realistic for me anymore.

for all the "muh realizzzms" comments i make, i finally agree that this game is not realistic at all.

Yes, shgaving is very important game mechanic. Vetry realistic, much depth added through mecahnic tied to daily life, since we accomplish living the lives of everyday soldier lives living their lives onn the battlefront and the experince they lived in this game.

But you do not seem sencere? no? You want to mock the immersion that we seek in this game, just because big blue ball above allie heads and tank crew is only 3 man and mp40 more common than kar 98k, this not mean that game can not be realistic one day. Are are really overweight woman? Shoulf not be overweight and in military is not realistic. Army has strict PT tests, no? My ♥♥♥♥♥♥ army do, dois USA not? DEVS DO BETTER, fix game and remove troll like this. He mock but you promise realizems during kick start and not deliver. Game is trash I no play buit I post here to hope that gmae get dfix.

USA army standards for females is very low. so I should be represented in the USA faction, since there were actually overweight females in the USA army during world war 2.

I am sincere. I am making Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight in RPG MAKER XV software. im currently developing sprites for it. i can not afford Unreal 4 license and coding time. so im working on the ultra brutal so brutal extra brutal realistic world war 2 experience that Hell Let Loose did not deliver. I promise, "there will be absolutely no Panters in stalingrad, i guarantee!".

the game may look cute, because those JRPG sprites are soooo adorable. but at least my game will be realistic , unlike Hell Cartoon Loose.

this game is trash. like anything that is not realistic.

[Monkey89brains]

Автор сообщения: pipi long stocking

Автор сообщения: Monkey89brains

Yes, shgaving is very important game mechanic. Vetry realistic, much depth added through mecahnic tied to daily life, since we accomplish living the lives of everyday soldier lives living their lives onn the battlefront and the experince they lived in this game.

But you do not seem sencere? no? You want to mock the immersion that we seek in this game, just because big blue ball above allie heads and tank crew is only 3 man and mp40 more common than kar 98k, this not mean that game can not be realistic one day. Are are really overweight woman? Shoulf not be overweight and in military is not realistic. Army has strict PT tests, no? My ♥♥♥♥♥♥ army do, dois USA not? DEVS DO BETTER, fix game and remove troll like this. He mock but you promise realizems during kick start and not deliver. Game is trash I no play buit I post here to hope that gmae get dfix.

USA army standards for females is very low. so I should be represented in the USA faction, since there were actually overweight females in the USA army during world war 2.

I am sincere. I am making Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight in RPG MAKER XV software. im currently developing sprites for it. i can not afford Unreal 4 license and coding time. so im working on the ultra brutal so brutal extra brutal realistic world war 2 experience that Hell Let Loose did not deliver. I promise, "there will be absolutely no Panters in stalingrad, i guarantee!".

the game may look cute, because those JRPG sprites are soooo adorable. but at least my game will be realistic , unlike Hell Cartoon Loose.

this game is trash. like anything that is not realistic.

GOOD panters in stalingrad very bad!

THERE WERE NO PANTS IN STALIN GRAD REMOVE PANTERS.

Please update on your game sounds very good, please deliver real WW2 experioence.

If making in RPG maker, maybe add Girls und panzer anime girls? Not realistic but is olkay because they are cutre and were correct uniforms so do not break immersion, yes? Veryy nice anime girls I own 1 body pillow.

[pipi long stocking]

Автор сообщения: Monkey89brains

Автор сообщения: pipi long stocking

USA army standards for females is very low. so I should be represented in the USA faction, since there were actually overweight females in the USA army during world war 2.

I am sincere. I am making Heck Let Somewhat Not Tight in RPG MAKER XV software. im currently developing sprites for it. i can not afford Unreal 4 license and coding time. so im working on the ultra brutal so brutal extra brutal realistic world war 2 experience that Hell Let Loose did not deliver. I promise, "there will be absolutely no Panters in stalingrad, i guarantee!".

the game may look cute, because those JRPG sprites are soooo adorable. but at least my game will be realistic , unlike Hell Cartoon Loose.

this game is trash. like anything that is not realistic.

GOOD panters in stalingrad very bad!

THERE WERE NO PANTS IN STALIN GRAD REMOVE PANTERS.

Please update on your game sounds very good, please deliver real WW2 experioence.

If making in RPG maker, maybe add Girls und panzer anime girls? Not realistic but is olkay because they are cutre and were correct uniforms so do not break immersion, yes? Veryy nice anime girls I own 1 body pillow.

cute > realism.

So yes, cute takes priority over realism. i will add them since my immersion is not affected by anime characters. i think i'll call them the oberstgruppenanimefuhrerbebop class in the germans. she will be a fabulous , courageous ww2 female soldier, with a dark past. which I'm sure there were in world war 2 for sure, there had to be. what should the russian version be? Svetlana, Natassia Dreams?

American version is called Karen Anime Cute Stuff class. and come equipped with a fabulous hello kitty backpack. my great grandmother served in world war 2, and wore that outfit. so its realistic for sure.

[Cipher Esteria]

Автор сообщения: Roninman

And in your words you want Battlefied

Ah the lovely strawman.
If people disagree they want Battlefield.

I for one want the devs to hold their word.
They said they want to balance the game, yet the americans still have all the Garand and not the M1903.
Honestly nerfing the americans is right now the way to go, they are clearly overtuned and need to be toned down.

[ToTeMKallo [FIN]]

I was expecting this game to be the new "RO2", or actually to be honest I was hoping this to be the official successor for Forgotten Hope 2. Most of you people won´t know about it but it was a semi realistic WW2 mod for Battlefield 2 (Best WW2 shooter I have ever played). I guess I was wrong then? If I want to play historically inaccurate WW2 game I go to Battlefield or COD. But don´t get me wrong, I have been wondering, should I buy the game. The battles of the Western front in this game look quite awesome so far. But if they´re taking the road of adding Panthers and IS1s to Stalingrad I guess I´ll pass.

They could just invest resources (maybe they will) and make battles from the end of the war, like Berlin, Dukla, Königsberg... the list goes on, with vehicles such as Panthers, Tiger Is and IIs, IS2s, ISU-152s, etc. And then they could just make early war battles with equipment fit in that period, like PZ II, III, IV and T-34, T-70, KV1. But if it´s intentional that "Panthers, Tigers and IS1s belong to Stalingrad" and are there to stay forever then I´m disappointed, because to me that sounds pure laziness. If it´s just temporary, then I´m completely fine with it.

You make a new theater of war, you make it right. Unless you just want to throw all the realism the game had out of the window, which is fine, but then we must admit the game isn´t even trying to be "realistic" anymore and wasn´t it the intension in the beginning? If it never has been, then I stand corrected. And just to be clear a game can´t be "realistic", if it was realistic the Germans would always lose in Stalingrad, etc but you get it. I´d hope there were more games that actually tried to capture the feeling of WW2 rather than be just cash grabs like COD WW2 or BFV which couldn´t care less about the theme.

But I guess we´ll see what happens. I was just so interested buying this game...

[[OP] Jamos]

Автор сообщения: ToTeNKopF

But I guess we´ll see what happens. I was just so interested buying this game...

I do not think it was ever meant to be historically accurate but the physics are close. Have you tried WW2 online?