Historical Accuracy at Stalingrad

[Augustus]

Having watched the new gameplay videos on the U10 maps, I was somewhat sad to see IS-1s, Panthers, and Tigers at Stalingrad. Some of the loadouts also seemed out of place, such as the STG 44. I understand that everyone is familiar with the loadouts and tanks from the Western Front, so I understand why they have been included. Do the Devs plan to remove weapons like the STG 44 from the Stalingrad map at some point (maybe replace it with something else)? Also, do the Devs still plan to have a historical uniform rule/mode for those whom don't want to see winter clothing being worn on D-Day?

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G43 in eastern front also lame

[Cipher Esteria]

They should also give only every second soviet player a weapon in Stalingrad.

Giving every player a weapon is lame and historical inaccurate

[Flamma]

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

They should also give only every second soviet player a weapon in Stalingrad.

Giving every player a weapon is lame and historical inaccurate

Myths for uneducated.

[Rahl]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

you do realize, that you are NOT ACTUALLY a soldier at Stalingrad, and never will be right? so why should some of those points even matter to you.

a panther at stalingrad! oh noez!! world war 2 (the actual one) will forever be tainted!

you do know there were swastikas at stalingrad right?
you do know there were civilians fighting alongside the Soviets right?
you do know that there were SS divisions in large numbers at Kursk right?


all of the above which are absent from the game , but do not affect my enjoyment. however according to your standards should be in there , because "muh realism" right?

So it's not affecting your enjoyment. Maybe it's affecting someone else enjoyment? Go away you selfish man! Go be selfish somwhere else.

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Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

you do realize, that you are NOT ACTUALLY a soldier at Stalingrad, and never will be right? so why should some of those points even matter to you.

a panther at stalingrad! oh noez!! world war 2 (the actual one) will forever be tainted!

you do know there were swastikas at stalingrad right?
you do know there were civilians fighting alongside the Soviets right?
you do know that there were SS divisions in large numbers at Kursk right?


all of the above which are absent from the game , but do not affect my enjoyment. however according to your standards should be in there , because "muh realism" right?

Adding historical inaccuracies to a once realistic ww2 fps only damages the game further. It thus becomes a fantasy shooter at some point. Including vehicles that weren't used in a theater of war ruins the immersion factor and satisfies a very small percent of (investors). Same thing with adding the G43, they were used in late 1943 but will be included in the eastern front, because WHO CARES ABOUT ACCURACY? The majority of the players do, actually. The immersive factor is dwindling and it does affect game play. We are in BF5 territory and we know how that one ended.

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by DeltaActual:

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

They should also give only every second soviet player a weapon in Stalingrad.

Giving every player a weapon is lame and historical inaccurate

Myths for uneducated.

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD COME OUT OF THEIR HOLE TO SAY THAT

[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by GroßD Rahl:

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

you do realize, that you are NOT ACTUALLY a soldier at Stalingrad, and never will be right? so why should some of those points even matter to you.

a panther at stalingrad! oh noez!! world war 2 (the actual one) will forever be tainted!

you do know there were swastikas at stalingrad right?
you do know there were civilians fighting alongside the Soviets right?
you do know that there were SS divisions in large numbers at Kursk right?


all of the above which are absent from the game , but do not affect my enjoyment. however according to your standards should be in there , because "muh realism" right?

So it's not affecting your enjoyment. Maybe it's affecting someone else enjoyment? Go away you selfish man! Go be selfish somwhere else.

no, not selfish.

im realistic about a game making certain gameplay concessions.

now, if this was a forum for historical re-enactments , then i would be "duuude, that uniform was soooo not there at stalingrad, go home and change!"

but no, this is a game. not a nerd's guide to WW2 Video Game Version 2.0.

sorry.

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Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by GroßD Rahl:

So it's not affecting your enjoyment. Maybe it's affecting someone else enjoyment? Go away you selfish man! Go be selfish somwhere else.

no, not selfish.

im realistic about a game making certain gameplay concessions.

now, if this was a forum for historical re-enactments , then i would be "duuude, that uniform was soooo not there at stalingrad, go home and change!"

but no, this is a game. not a nerd's guide to WW2 Video Game Version 2.0.

sorry.

Man you have low expectations and standards, it would take 15 minutes to lock out vehicles/weapons for a given front and provide a more historical environment. It's funny how you would sacrifice historical accuracy so the game can provide what? Breaks immersion, breaks history, provides a lesser experience. You're not gaining anything and breaking more things than helping. Par for the course I guess, seems to be a running theme around here.

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Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

you do realize, that you are NOT ACTUALLY a soldier at Stalingrad, and never will be right? so why should some of those points even matter to you.

a panther at stalingrad! oh noez!! world war 2 (the actual one) will forever be tainted!

you do know there were swastikas at stalingrad right?
you do know there were civilians fighting alongside the Soviets right?
you do know that there were SS divisions in large numbers at Kursk right?


all of the above which are absent from the game , but do not affect my enjoyment. however according to your standards should be in there , because "muh realism" right?

Bro, they are recreating ww2 battles and maps, do you realize this? Is this fairy tale land?

[NitoAndTheFunkyBunch]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by GroßD Rahl:

So it's not affecting your enjoyment. Maybe it's affecting someone else enjoyment? Go away you selfish man! Go be selfish somwhere else.

no, not selfish.

im realistic about a game making certain gameplay concessions.

now, if this was a forum for historical re-enactments , then i would be "duuude, that uniform was soooo not there at stalingrad, go home and change!"

but no, this is a game. not a nerd's guide to WW2 Video Game Version 2.0.

sorry.

These gameplay decisions only serve to make the game less immersive and more repetitive. Pointing to a vague "gameplay reasons" is not good enough to justify something being added or omitted from the game.

[Rahl]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by GroßD Rahl:

So it's not affecting your enjoyment. Maybe it's affecting someone else enjoyment? Go away you selfish man! Go be selfish somwhere else.

no, not selfish.

im realistic about a game making certain gameplay concessions.

now, if this was a forum for historical re-enactments , then i would be "duuude, that uniform was soooo not there at stalingrad, go home and change!"

but no, this is a game. not a nerd's guide to WW2 Video Game Version 2.0.

sorry.

This is not another game in World War 2 settings! It's simulation of war! Totaly historicly accurate! ~ Devs on kickstarter

Hehe, money goes brrrrrrt ~ Devs now.

I want game that I bought. Simple as that.

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Originally posted by GroßD Rahl:

This is not another game in World War 2 settings! It's simulation of war! Totaly historicly accurate! ~ Devs on kickstarter

Hehe, money goes brrrrrrt ~ Devs now.

I want game that I bought. Simple as that.

+1

[Saddam_Insane]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

you do realize, that you are NOT ACTUALLY a soldier at Stalingrad, and never will be right? so why should some of those points even matter to you.

a panther at stalingrad! oh noez!! world war 2 (the actual one) will forever be tainted!

you do know there were swastikas at stalingrad right?
you do know there were civilians fighting alongside the Soviets right?
you do know that there were SS divisions in large numbers at Kursk right?


all of the above which are absent from the game , but do not affect my enjoyment. however according to your standards should be in there , because "muh realism" right?

+!

[Saddam_Insane]

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

They should also give only every second soviet player a weapon in Stalingrad.

Giving every player a weapon is lame and historical inaccurate

LOL

[Flamma]

Originally posted by Mr.Cipher:

Originally posted by DeltaActual:

Myths for uneducated.

I KNEW SOMEONE WOULD COME OUT OF THEIR HOLE TO SAY THAT

I feel sorry for your generation. Toxic internet heroes, yet can't even protect your own women irl. Your grandfathers were for real. You are not.