KURSK is GARBAGE

[SENSI]

Who ever came up with KURSK needs to be sacked. This is the most pathetic map I have ever played in any game. If you are Russian you stand ZERO chance of winning in an offensive game when you are defending. As soon as they take the second point its GAME OVER. The German tanks get to the middle of the map and shoot the Russian tanks as they come out of spawn. You cant even get them to the front. The Russians antitank are pathetic and take about 15 rounds just to take out a light tank so you're down to antitank building anti tank guns which will get taken out with one shot. So you're pretty screwed when it comes to defending.

I'm sure you're trying to be "historically accurate" but this map choice is a disaster and should never have happened. The Russian faction is a joke but KURSK + being Russian = leaving the server and finish my night of gaming or finding a different map on a different server. Not sure what you guys were thinking with this pile of TRASH but sack the idiot who came up with the idea.

Server owners please remove this map from your map cycle, your player base will be better for it.

[kingsbishop7]

OP - I disagree 100%, Bests maps in the game in order (IMHO): FOY, Kursk, Stalingrad, Omaha.

[Corbs]

Lol. Change your gameplay. Lead a squad to flank. Satchels all the way.
The minute you get the tanks attention and it stops firing on the battle field and looks at you, your team rushes to remove spawns. And/or you destroy the tank!

[Corbs]

Originally posted by kingsbishop7:

OP - I disagree 100%, Bests maps in the game in order (IMHO): FOY, Kursk, Stalingrad, Omaha.

Omaha all the way because that initial AT gun facing the boats is beautiful haha!!

[SENSI]

Originally posted by kingsbishop7:

OP - I disagree 100%, Bests maps in the game in order (IMHO): FOY, Kursk, Stalingrad, Omaha.

You need psychiatric help. Omaha and FOY are ok but the rest are garbage. You obviously sit in tanks every game

[SENSI]

Originally posted by Corbatron3000:

Lol. Change your gameplay. Lead a squad to flank. Satchels all the way.
The minute you get the tanks attention and it stops firing on the battle field and looks at you, your team rushes to remove spawns. And/or you destroy the tank!

LMAO good one

[Corbs]

LMAO good one [/quote]

The fact you can only laugh shows you are a bad player and not capable of performing strategic gameplay necessary to win. Try watching the map and following those who can. Coordinate with recon squads and make it work. It’s possible. Whinging like a ♥♥♥♥ won’t help you improve.

[Valentine Michael Smith]

open maps require the most combined arms play (aka teamwork) therefore scrubs don't like them

[Corbs]

Objectively speaking, those of us who don’t expect a fight with a tiger to be evenly matched are doing other things like, long flanks, coordinated strikes and distractions intended to create opportunities. And they work if you learn how to do them well.
The concept of a more difficult map actually gets me hard.
You know those people that don’t play games on normal difficulty… they are amongst you!

[Jeff Epstein]

the map is very one sided and needs to be fixed.

[mobucks]

Not a huge fan of KURSK but here is some advice:
1: It's a tank map. If Russia doesn't field as many tanks as possible it's gonna be a bad day. Germany has the high ground. That crest on the German side in the middle of the map can see almost all of the rest of the map.
2: Use the trenches. They reach key points but in my experience a lot of players don't realize that.
3: Just do what I do and suck it up till the next map loads. =)

[Feldhobel]

Originally posted by Valentine Michael Smith:

open maps require the most combined arms play (aka teamwork) therefore scrubs don't like them

thats what i think was the point behind this map. it sucks in random team doing random things vs random team doing random things, but if you play the game as intented your commander will shoot smoke, youve got tanks, sniper, and infantry.

its not the devs fault that noone is using a microphone and teamplay atm.

[SENSI]

Originally posted by Corbatron3000:

LMAO good one

The fact you can only laugh shows you are a bad player and not capable of performing strategic gameplay necessary to win. Try watching the map and following those who can. Coordinate with recon squads and make it work. It’s possible. Whinging like a ♥♥♥♥ won’t help you improve. [/quote]

WOW you worked out that im a bad player because I laughed at your moronic comment. How did you do that? Your so intelligence, you should work for NASA....cleaning their toilets.

[SENSI]

Originally posted by datCookie:

Originally posted by Corbatron3000:

The fact you can only laugh shows you are a bad player and not capable of performing strategic gameplay necessary to win. Try watching the map and following those who can. Coordinate with recon squads and make it work. It’s possible. Whinging like a ♥♥♥♥ won’t help you improve.

Objectively speaking, the more open maps like Kursk and Foy are worse than any other map currently in the game. This is evident by the number of reworks the developers have had to do to Foy over the years in an attempt to "balance" the map for both teams on certain objectives like West Bend, where one team had the very obvious advantage over the other in terms of distance to point from HQ and open ground of attackers to the point itself.

Kursk is, from my limited experience, just as bad, if not worse than Foy, as it is far more open, with tanks able to snipe enemy tanks in their spawn from one of the centre objectives.


Couple this with the ease at which players can down targets at distance with most weapons and the prevalence of automatic weapons, you get very dull gameplay on the aforementioned maps, but more "generic arena shooter" style on every other map.

You can employ all the "coordination and strategic gameplay" you want, it doesn't do anything to address the underlying issue and most players are forced into either the meat grinder, or very long walks, both of which are dull and boring.

Ultimately, the issues with the maps comes down to the game design, or lack thereof. This is something that has been brought to the devs attention many times, with no acknowledgement whatsoever.

^^^^^^ This guy gets it. Spot on Cookie.

[SENSI]

Originally posted by Corbatron3000:

Objectively speaking, those of us who don’t expect a fight with a tiger to be evenly matched are doing other things like, long flanks, coordinated strikes and distractions intended to create opportunities. And they work if you learn how to do them well.
The concept of a more difficult map actually gets me hard.
You know those people that don’t play games on normal difficulty… they are amongst you!

You finished cleaning those toilets yet?

[Chariots of the Gods]

Originally posted by kingsbishop7:

OP - I disagree 100%, Bests maps in the game in order (IMHO): FOY, Kursk, Stalingrad, Omaha.

the russian maps suck, i agree with mostof his statement here. They russian maps are just gross and disgusting.