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Wari 2024 年 1 月 28 日 上午 4:56
Still no DLSS?
Why? I dont get it... games performance was never that good and i think DLSS would really help..
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☆SPAC3M4R1N3☆ 2024 年 9 月 13 日 下午 6:07 
DLSS will not help at all....the game is heavy CPU bound...and DLSS will take load from the GPU and hit the CPU even more. Guys learn about Unreal Engine and how DLSS works. Get a modern CPU ....problem solved.
Yoyo 2024 年 9 月 13 日 下午 8:46 
The -dx12 launch option offloads a lot of the physics to the GPU and makes the game less CPU bound. Plus running my 4080 rig on threadripper instead of my AMD on 5800. If you were correct then my 4080 rig would outperform my radeon rig, but it does not.
Dïngus 2024 年 9 月 13 日 下午 9:20 
引用自 Yoyo
The -dx12 launch option offloads a lot of the physics to the GPU and makes the game less CPU bound. Plus running my 4080 rig on threadripper instead of my AMD on 5800. If you were correct then my 4080 rig would outperform my radeon rig, but it does not.

This game also runs super good on my 7700 xt 7600x "rig". So much so I have to cap fps...
☆SPAC3M4R1N3☆ 2024 年 9 月 14 日 下午 2:09 
Yeah i have to cap my fps to 144 because of my monitors hz refresh rate. Only map i dont get 144 fps is mortain atm. I run the game in 1440p highest settings....people have to get better CPUs and read more about Unreal Engine and DLSS.
Use startparameters in Steam is also very helpful.

-dx12 -USEALLAVAILABLECORES -malloc=system -high
grimbob 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 2:55 
引用自 sgtkoolaid
Game works perfectly fine for me. I have a 5800x 64GB DDR4 3600mhz, using a SSD and 3070ti. by no means a tyrant of a PC, but not a slouch either. but get really good performance on ultra. I'd have to look again on what fps i get but I rememebr getting easily 90 fps easy with occasioinal dips depending on what happens.

I have the same specs, except I have a 3080. You don't get 90fps "easily" on ultra with "occasional dips". Don't talk absolute nonsense.
Hylie Pistof 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 7:18 
why does everyone think that adding another script or function will IMPROVE performance?? are you all ok? this game has enough issues already.

quote WIKI
...the use of DLSS leads to particularly blurred images at lower resolutions...
...The use of DLSS frame generation may lead to increased input latency...
Quote end

also... DLSS is an Nvidia thing, so all AMD cards stay out?

why do you want something only one company produces? do you get paid for this?
T1E6X1 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 8:10 
引用自 Hylie Pistof
why does everyone think that adding another script or function will IMPROVE performance?? are you all ok? this game has enough issues already.

quote WIKI
...the use of DLSS leads to particularly blurred images at lower resolutions...
...The use of DLSS frame generation may lead to increased input latency...
Quote end

also... DLSS is an Nvidia thing, so all AMD cards stay out?

why do you want something only one company produces? do you get paid for this?

Nvidia has the highest market share by far which is why people ask specifically for DLSS. It will improve performance at the cost of image quality. FSR is a more universal solution but has even worse quality, XeSS is equivalent to DLSS but the dp4a fallback on non Intel GPUs just isnt as good.
Hylie Pistof 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 8:39 
so only the leader on the market will get considered when games are made? great take :/

that sounds alot like monopoly and will in fact divide the gamers even more as they already are.

another thing about all those new gimmics is, they are not for the majority of the players who often still play on average 5 years old hardware and older. alot also dont play everything in 4k where these functions work and shine.

and in the end it is a mask, a scam, instead of using high quality textures, you add a script with ai that immitates those.
and all just for those who play on very expensive hardware on stupidly high graphics, distracting from the actual gameplay and reducing it to the ever same game just with some other looks and worse performance too :(

id like any developer to focus more on gameplay then a slightly better graphic that costs alot of computing power.

again, my first question was "why does everyone think that adding another script or function will IMPROVE performance?" - it does only on high end and not necessary expensive toys!
最後修改者:Hylie Pistof; 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 8:40
T1E6X1 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 10:00 
引用自 Hylie Pistof
so only the leader on the market will get considered when games are made? great take :/

that sounds alot like monopoly and will in fact divide the gamers even more as they already are.

another thing about all those new gimmics is, they are not for the majority of the players who often still play on average 5 years old hardware and older. alot also dont play everything in 4k where these functions work and shine.

and in the end it is a mask, a scam, instead of using high quality textures, you add a script with ai that immitates those.
and all just for those who play on very expensive hardware on stupidly high graphics, distracting from the actual gameplay and reducing it to the ever same game just with some other looks and worse performance too :(

id like any developer to focus more on gameplay then a slightly better graphic that costs alot of computing power.

again, my first question was "why does everyone think that adding another script or function will IMPROVE performance?" - it does only on high end and not necessary expensive toys!
Im not saying only the market leader will be considered. I am saying that most people own Nvidia GPUs as a result of Nvidia's high market share hence they ask for DLSS as it is what Nvidia offers.

And yes, you could consider Nvidia a monopoly.

DLSS supports Nvidia GPUs up to 6 years back, FSR supports GPUs further back than that.

No, upscaling like DLSS is not a scam replacement for high quality textures. It allows the player to lower their base resolution from say 1440p to 1080p to gain performance, then use an AI based upscaler to make it look closer to 1440p with a low performance hit, resulting in a net performance gain and an image that looks better than 1080p but worse than 1440p. If you want to talk about the decline of game optimization since DLSS's inception that is one thing, blaming it as a replacement for high quality textures is just wrong.

"why does everyone think that adding another script or function will IMPROVE performance?"

DLSS/ FSR/ XeSS does improve performance, you can look at quite literally any benchmark for any game and you will see the performance improvement. Upscalers/ FG are less for high end systems and more for the lower end systems where people would use them to perhaps get from 50 to 60fps.
Hylie Pistof 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 10:35 
the thing that improved the performance was lowering the resolution not DLSS, and now you just upscale the textures to a lookalike - that is scam and since it started already discussed, it is the wrong way.
all the development goes into a slighly better looking (realistic) visuals, but the games performance is dropping, the only thing that keeps games running today is expensive hardware, what is again - the wrong way.

and even then, they could use better textures now, but they add a script for a ai generated mask.
the idea was fine when the hardware wasnt capable but everyone was screaming 2k/4k ;) that still the only place that makes sense to have.
today you need a 1k $ GPU to keep a performance like 10 years ago, for 1k or 1440 we dont need that anymore.

my greatest problem with this is, why add this into a game to support one company only, that will have a bad smell on the game, if it prefers one over the other.

either they find something that all can use or no game should support any of that.

however, the greatest flaw in this game are the players themselfs, and since everyone is focused on how it looks, they never learn to play.
wrong prioritys!
and everyone keeps spending their money for this BS

thats all from me, have fun with your 70fps on a 1k card but fake 4k
T1E6X1 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 11:05 
引用自 Hylie Pistof
the thing that improved the performance was lowering the resolution not DLSS, and now you just upscale the textures to a lookalike - that is scam and since it started already discussed, it is the wrong way.
all the development goes into a slighly better looking (realistic) visuals, but the games performance is dropping, the only thing that keeps games running today is expensive hardware, what is again - the wrong way.

and even then, they could use better textures now, but they add a script for a ai generated mask.
the idea was fine when the hardware wasnt capable but everyone was screaming 2k/4k ;) that still the only place that makes sense to have.
today you need a 1k $ GPU to keep a performance like 10 years ago, for 1k or 1440 we dont need that anymore.

my greatest problem with this is, why add this into a game to support one company only, that will have a bad smell on the game, if it prefers one over the other.

either they find something that all can use or no game should support any of that.

however, the greatest flaw in this game are the players themselfs, and since everyone is focused on how it looks, they never learn to play.
wrong prioritys!
and everyone keeps spending their money for this BS

thats all from me, have fun with your 70fps on a 1k card but fake 4k

DLSS is the one that lowers the resolution and upscales the image. It upscales the ENTIRE IMAGE; not textures. You just dont understand.

Nvidia, AMD, and Intel all have development tools to make implementing these upscalers easier. Though im not going to pretend I know why they havent been implemented yet.

In my opinion I dont think we'll see much in terms of HLL updates aside from the cosmetic stuff (new maps, uniforms, weapons, vfx, sfx, etc). The game has been established as it is and I dont think Team 17 have the will to do complete overhauls.
Hylie Pistof 2024 年 12 月 15 日 上午 11:24 
its not about understanding, we humans do that everywhere, we develops something that is a tiny bit better but costs alot of resources and power.

the whole PC development is focused on gaming, all the power we have in these machines is to waste time when we dont work.
no application we use other then games needs all this!

WRONG PRIORITYS - this game needs at first a playerbase that is willing to learn the ropes and use the friggin comms!!
but no, we discuss fracking graphics and one sided developments in the industrial and economic world!
the game will not improve by adding anything but brains to the people XD

good hunting ;)
Yoyo 1 月 3 日 下午 11:00 
the game has a very dedicated player base and an average of 10000 players on steam alone is pretty decent.

引用自 Hylie Pistof
its not about understanding, we humans do that everywhere, we develops something that is a tiny bit better but costs alot of resources and power.

the whole PC development is focused on gaming, all the power we have in these machines is to waste time when we dont work.
no application we use other then games needs all this!

WRONG PRIORITYS - this game needs at first a playerbase that is willing to learn the ropes and use the friggin comms!!
but no, we discuss fracking graphics and one sided developments in the industrial and economic world!
the game will not improve by adding anything but brains to the people XD

good hunting ;)

the game has a very dedicated player base and an average of 10000 players on steam alone is pretty decent. The game has content and new maps every few months. Not sure on what planet you are on, probably planet Epic, but here on Steam we have been waiting for Hell Let Loose to get a new UE4 upgrade since 2018, that is how old the engine is.

As a developer myself, a new game engine could not be of higher priority.

The only one that shows no brain is you.
最後修改者:Yoyo; 1 月 3 日 下午 11:02
tmo97 1 月 3 日 下午 11:06 
So all of yall seem to be having EXTRA fps
I'm here with my RTX3060 12GB and Ryzen 5 5600G being on ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fire with my 6 fans blazing despite my fan curve and whatnot and everything being on medium or OFF at 1920x1080, and FPS limited to 60. I do have the steam parameters, the cfg edits, etc. and my CPU/GPU still get up to 65C with lots of stuttering and even sub-60fps.

Is my rig just not good enough or is there smth I can do? Thanks in advance
Hylie Pistof 1 月 4 日 上午 7:14 
引用自 Yoyo

the game has a very dedicated player base and an average of 10000 players on steam alone is pretty decent. The game has content and new maps every few months. Not sure on what planet you are on, probably planet Epic, but here on Steam we have been waiting for Hell Let Loose to get a new UE4 upgrade since 2018, that is how old the engine is.

As a developer myself, a new game engine could not be of higher priority.

The only one that shows no brain is you.


oh my ^^
if you are realy a developer... well XD

the game engine is much older then 2018, so this shows how much you know as developer XD

and if you have followed the development of UE5 then you know that it has just a slightly better performance IF you buy the latest (ergo: expensive and power hungry) hardware!

all that power and money goes into a graphics that is a little closer to realistic, but still not quit yet.
and that has an impact on the performance that most identifie with fps.

there are videos where people play those games that are already converted to UE5 and the conclusion is often - not worth it!

nice graphics, but only in parts better, like some effects, rain, enviroment mirroring in the water puddels, skin of playermodels... all irrelevant if that gameplay doesnt leave time to simply look around - what most certainly is the case in a full scale wargame like HLL!

there are so many other things that have to be fixed first, that changing that engine is a waste of time and manpower.
deveolping a completly new game will be more effective and cheaper too!

but you already should know all this as DEVELOPER

and in the end, it is all about the players who dont give a **** about the actual game = no brains, just shoot stuff! - see those new players currently - and no i dont even have an epic account XD

so you should consider to come down from your high horse, accusing and insulting people who have resonable arguments! you developer XD
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