Al Alamein needs to be removed

[Latz]

do i need say more...

[Roovka]

I legit dont understand why servers put it in the rotation or their map vote options.

[KingKickAss]

When it wins the map vote and the player count drops from 100 to 17 in an instant.

[☠️ 𝕄𝔸𝕐ℍ𝔼𝕄]

fog needs to be removed

[Hylie Pistof]

Originally posted by Roovka:

I legit dont understand why servers put it in the rotation or their map vote options.

i realy dont understand why most of the servers play the same 4 maps over and over again and now even as night map, what changes everything of course
we asked for more maps, but then everyone complains that they are bad ^^ - well the soldiers back then had no choice, we should in fact play all maps regular.

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

When it wins the map vote and the player count drops from 100 to 17 in an instant.

that is on the players
bad optimized equippment and performance issues get exaggerated and they jump off as soon as they see a map that will break their oh so mighty toy.

a difficult aproach is too much for shooters without a clue of strategie (alot even call it tactic, what is something different).

about the map... i played it barly, because this kind of mindset here prevents us from playing (just like remagen).
the map could use a rework, especialy some more vegetation. that part of the "dessert" is not just rocks and sand.
also.. the pics from the last skirmish test showed some promising changes too. lets hope that allows us to do more the just spray and pray over 500m like now ;)

lazy players who want killcounts, cant follow a leader, change their role every death, run around and complain abut getting shot...
this game has its issues, sure, but the most anoying are the players!

especialy those who belive they know all about shooters - well, here is a hint - this is NOT a shooter!

[Zeu$]

Al Alamein is just boring and to open and to featureless. It also can't be fixed without alot of work. The only thing that could improve it is to limit visibility to something like 100m.

[Hylie Pistof]

Originally posted by Zeu$:

Al Alamein is just boring and to open and to featureless. It also can't be fixed without alot of work. The only thing that could improve it is to limit visibility to something like 100m.

if you look at the pictures from the last skirmish test, you see changes to the map that will improve possibilitys alot. more buildings along the roads and obviously some more at other locations, a bridge and river, more vegetation and foliage... the view distance will also reduce with such obstacles.
and the missunderstanding about british weapon performance was mostly because no one realized the are shooting over 300m distance. no weapon is a oneshot then.

the map was probably not finnished just as the whole british update - it was a leftover from BM that was released without checking it propper.

[Zeu$]

Sounds good but will these changes only effect the skirmish map? What about warfare and offensive?

[Strontium Dog]

Originally posted by Anar Kay:

Originally posted by Roovka:

I legit dont understand why servers put it in the rotation or their map vote options.

i realy dont understand why most of the servers play the same 4 maps over and over again and now even as night map, what changes everything of course
we asked for more maps, but then everyone complains that they are bad ^^ - well the soldiers back then had no choice, we should in fact play all maps regular.

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

When it wins the map vote and the player count drops from 100 to 17 in an instant.

that is on the players :lunar2019shockedpig:
bad optimized equippment and performance issues get exaggerated and they jump off as soon as they see a map that will break their oh so mighty toy.

a difficult aproach is too much for shooters without a clue of strategie (alot even call it tactic, what is something different).

about the map... i played it barly, because this kind of mindset here prevents us from playing (just like remagen).
the map could use a rework, especialy some more vegetation. that part of the "dessert" is not just rocks and sand.
also.. the pics from the last skirmish test showed some promising changes too. lets hope that allows us to do more the just spray and pray over 500m like now ;)

lazy players who want killcounts, cant follow a leader, change their role every death, run around and complain abut getting shot...
this game has its issues, sure, but the most anoying are the players!

especialy those who belive they know all about shooters - well, here is a hint - this is NOT a shooter!

You do know most people play for fun don't you?

[Hylie Pistof]

Originally posted by Zeu$:

Sounds good but will these changes only effect the skirmish map? What about warfare and offensive?

there wil be no skirmish map.
do you belive they create a new map just for another game mode?
it will be a regular map in reduced size, and that particular one will get an update for all modes ;)

Originally posted by X-Strontium Dog:

You do know most people play for fun don't you?

why isnt it fun to play together in a team, to archive the goal of the game?

why is it no fun to have a challenge while playing? a point alot of players complain in other games about, because they belive if its too easy, its lame.

why do you have to play the same 4 maps when there are 14 ingame?
why complain that we want more maps, and then complain they are crap?

if this game is no fun for you, why do you play it? the whole reason for this was to play together in a squad on an actual battlefield of that time ^^ original battlefields, no generic fantasie maps with created choke points.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Anar Kay:

Originally posted by Roovka:

I legit dont understand why servers put it in the rotation or their map vote options.

i realy dont understand why most of the servers play the same 4 maps over and over again and now even as night map, what changes everything of course
we asked for more maps, but then everyone complains that they are bad ^^ - well the soldiers back then had no choice, we should in fact play all maps regular.

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

When it wins the map vote and the player count drops from 100 to 17 in an instant.

that is on the players
bad optimized equippment and performance issues get exaggerated and they jump off as soon as they see a map that will break their oh so mighty toy.

a difficult aproach is too much for shooters without a clue of strategie (alot even call it tactic, what is something different).

about the map... i played it barly, because this kind of mindset here prevents us from playing (just like remagen).
the map could use a rework, especialy some more vegetation. that part of the "dessert" is not just rocks and sand.
also.. the pics from the last skirmish test showed some promising changes too. lets hope that allows us to do more the just spray and pray over 500m like now ;)

lazy players who want killcounts, cant follow a leader, change their role every death, run around and complain abut getting shot...
this game has its issues, sure, but the most anoying are the players!

especialy those who belive they know all about shooters - well, here is a hint - this is NOT a shooter!

I'd prefer to play the best maps this game has to offer at all times than have the possibility of playing a single round of Alamein.

[Hylie Pistof]

Originally posted by Roovka:

I'd prefer to play the best maps this game has to offer at all times than have the possibility of playing a single round of Alamein.

that is understandable, but your grandfather had no choice. he had to land on omaha beach, no matter if it was hard.

yes, the early maps are best optimized, but that does not mean they are the best! its just an excuse to me for not beeing willing to adapt, allways do the same lame stuff and get bored one day.
yes you are a great soldier and able to take SME alone, but not cross the river in Driel :/

and if the others never get played no one finds out how good the realy are ;) find new strategies and adapt to other weapons (well the are realy not different XD).
play on other historic battlefields and enjoy the whole spectrum of what the developers are working on - to display the horrors of that time.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Anar Kay:

Originally posted by Roovka:

I'd prefer to play the best maps this game has to offer at all times than have the possibility of playing a single round of Alamein.

that is understandable, but your grandfather had no choice. he had to land on omaha beach, no matter if it was hard.

yes, the early maps are best optimized, but that does not mean they are the best! its just an excuse to me for not beeing willing to adapt, allways do the same lame stuff and get bored one day.
yes you are a great soldier and able to take SME alone, but not cross the river in Driel :/

and if the others never get played no one finds out how good the realy are ;) find new strategies and adapt to other weapons (well the are realy not different XD).
play on other historic battlefields and enjoy the whole spectrum of what the developers are working on - to display the horrors of that time.

Luckily I do have that choice and servers have made that possible.

[AdahnGorion]

Al Alamein is considered the best map in Hell Let Loose by most mature player, due to several factors, including its historical significance, strategic importance, and gameplay dynamics. The map’s authentic representation of the Second Battle of El Alamein and its diverse range of gameplay experiences make it the most popular choice among players who appreciate historical accuracy and tactical depth.

Players that do not like Al Alamein is often regarded as people without historical knowledge, taste for strategy and so forth. There are also players with very low end machines, that can´t run the map and they instead complain about it with false arguments. Its clear that the vast majority of players love this map and want to play it. It should be the number one pick every time a vote is on.

This post was most likely made without AI interaction and without sarcasm.
Have a wonderful day all and remember not to just raise one flag, but two! in Al Alamein´s honour.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Al Alamein is considered the best map in Hell Let Loose by most mature player, due to several factors, including its historical significance, strategic importance, and gameplay dynamics. The map’s authentic representation of the Second Battle of El Alamein and its diverse range of gameplay experiences make it the most popular choice among players who appreciate historical accuracy and tactical depth.

Players that do not like Al Alamein is often regarded as people without historical knowledge, taste for strategy and so forth. There are also players with very low end machines, that can´t run the map and they instead complain about it with false arguments. Its clear that the vast majority of players love this map and want to play it. It should be the number one pick every time a vote is on.

This post was most likely made without AI interaction and without sarcasm.
Have a wonderful day all and remember not to just raise one flag, but two! in Al Alamein´s honour. :brotherflee::brotherflee::Eagle_hoi::peace_hoi:

This reads exactly like propaganda.

[TWB*Clell_Miller]

Originally posted by KingKickAss:

When it wins the map vote and the player count drops from 100 to 17 in an instant.

That seems contradictory somehow. If the map wins the vote by a majority, why should 80% of the voters flee? That tells me most players are not involving themselves in map selection.