Cheating?

[Ratt]

Hmmmm - https://www. I won't post the rest.

I tell you. I'm seeing a lot of new level 20/30 guys making some really amazing shots, knowing exactly where people are, etc. That just doesn't happen this often with legit players. Not consistently. Sucks - going to end up ruining a great game.

[SNUFFLES]

the hacking in HLL is straight up legit. Fanbois refuse to admit it. You know who else refuses to admit it? Those that use the cheats. Often the same persons.

[Gregory Stevens]

I was on 3LA the other night and I called out a cheater as automatic rifleman level 22 going 750 combat effectiveness just running around and gunning people down, he was my nemesis 8 times, every kill he got on me was a head-shot without missing a single shot. That guy was toggling hard and not even trying to hide it, which means there were others cheating with ESP(wallhacks) not being as blatant that did not get caught.

Soft-hacking is definitely happening with use of macros for arty and scripts for perfect arty shots that do not vary at all they just land perfectly on top of the garrison, airhead, vehicles perfectly every shot with zero variation. I've seem tanks that can start in 4th gear automatically similar to what you see on the trucks by holding the handbrake to remain in 5th gear, there's a script that allows the tanks to do the same, thus allowing them to out maneuver anyone. There's cheats where you can set how many missed shots you'll make before your shot connects to the target and you can select which part of the body it'll hit, there's green boxes around players that will flash red when they can be shot and green when they are in cover, 3d radar that shows anything within the vicinity such as OP's, garrisons, ap mines, at mines, vehicles, commanders location and everything else.

If admins put more time into finding cheaters and less time monitoring the chat for anything that offends them, servers would have a lot less cheaters.

[n335h]

Originally posted by PINEAPPLEPETE:

I was on 3LA the other night and I called out a cheater as automatic rifleman level 22 going 750 combat effectiveness just running around and gunning people down, he was my nemesis 8 times, every kill he got on me was a head-shot without missing a single shot. That guy was toggling hard and not even trying to hide it, which means there were others cheating with ESP(wallhacks) not being as blatant that did not get caught.

Soft-hacking is definitely happening with use of macros for arty and scripts for perfect arty shots that do not vary at all they just land perfectly on top of the garrison, airhead, vehicles perfectly every shot with zero variation. I've seem tanks that can start in 4th gear automatically similar to what you see on the trucks by holding the handbrake to remain in 5th gear, there's a script that allows the tanks to do the same, thus allowing them to out maneuver anyone. There's cheats where you can set how many missed shots you'll make before your shot connects to the target and you can select which part of the body it'll hit, there's green boxes around players that will flash red when they can be shot and green when they are in cover, 3d radar that shows anything within the vicinity such as OP's, garrisons, ap mines, at mines, vehicles, commanders location and everything else.

If admins put more time into finding cheaters and less time monitoring the chat for anything that offends them, servers would have a lot less cheaters.

Seem to know alot about all the cheats you could use, ey.... Shall we take it as a confession? aha

[=7CAV=SPC.Henson.K]

I'm relieved to see that I wasn't the only one noticing this. After 2500 hours in this game, at no previous point have I felt that opponents were consistently employing cheats to find and target me. Not only that, but OPs/Garrisons are being found and taken down almost as soon as you build them. Something is definitely going on, and there doesn't seem to be much interest in the community to do anything about it.

[xCrazyDragonx1]

i will be honest had the game for a bit but finally downloaded the game to try between not getting servers with people on it at relative low ping 20 to 50 game seems unplayable in my opinion when it is above 100 for ping also my opinion fps's should be capped at 60 for pvp. but besides that it seems like every server i have played on as 5 to 10 "cheaters" on it only reason i put it is quotes is do to me not being sure if the person is lagging or if actually are.

[xCrazyDragonx1]

it also does not help that anti cheat software is as to begin with

[Bad-Mouth Basil]

Originally posted by Ratt:

Hmmmm - https://www. I won't post the rest.

I tell you. I'm seeing a lot of new level 20/30 guys making some really amazing shots, knowing exactly where people are, etc. That just doesn't happen this often with legit players. Not consistently. Sucks - going to end up ruining a great game.

Free weekend summed up here.

Originally posted by PINEAPPLEPETE:

I was on 3LA the other night and I called out a cheater as automatic rifleman level 22 going 750 combat effectiveness just running around and gunning people down, he was my nemesis 8 times, every kill he got on me was a head-shot without missing a single shot. That guy was toggling hard and not even trying to hide it, which means there were others cheating with ESP(wallhacks) not being as blatant that did not get caught.

Soft-hacking is definitely happening with use of macros for arty and scripts for perfect arty shots that do not vary at all they just land perfectly on top of the garrison, airhead, vehicles perfectly every shot with zero variation. I've seem tanks that can start in 4th gear automatically similar to what you see on the trucks by holding the handbrake to remain in 5th gear, there's a script that allows the tanks to do the same, thus allowing them to out maneuver anyone. There's cheats where you can set how many missed shots you'll make before your shot connects to the target and you can select which part of the body it'll hit, there's green boxes around players that will flash red when they can be shot and green when they are in cover, 3d radar that shows anything within the vicinity such as OP's, garrisons, ap mines, at mines, vehicles, commanders location and everything else.

If admins put more time into finding cheaters and less time monitoring the chat for anything that offends them, servers would have a lot less cheaters.

^^^
That's scripted cheating - but what about something as rudimentary as screen-sharing? Now that makes the matches rigged from the start.

[Praesi]

Cheaters exist in every MP Game and they are Scum. But accusing legit players of cheating is also a common thing in MP Games. Something we have to live with i guess.

[Ratt]

Originally posted by Bad-Mouth Basil:

Originally posted by Ratt:

Hmmmm - https://www. I won't post the rest.

I tell you. I'm seeing a lot of new level 20/30 guys making some really amazing shots, knowing exactly where people are, etc. That just doesn't happen this often with legit players. Not consistently. Sucks - going to end up ruining a great game.

Free weekend summed up here.

Not really sure what you mean here?

[Ratt]

I'm not saying it's happening all of the time because I don't think it is. There are just times that I think it is. When you got a team full of lvl 40s and below and their raking against guys with 1000/2000 hours in the game, there's probably something going on. Not saying that low level guys aren't good but there is a small learning curve here. Low levels tracking garrisons, always getting head shots, etc. It's just frustrating because I love playing the game and I hope this trend doesn't get worse.

[ﾒ Keanu]

Originally posted by DiViNe NeKO:

there are 100% for certain aimbot hackers in this game they just snipe from across the map and land perfect headshots on running players where you would be blurry dot so far away its not possible to hit at these ranges without the hacks.

I was behind a a very large hill under total cover where there is no line of sight between me or other troops, not firing being stealthy and suddenly the hill is being sprayed with MG fire on my exact location even though they had no way of seeing my player model so there is some tracking hack that will lock onto players behind map cover even if they cant land hits they lock onto your exact location and just keep shooting until you die if attempt to move out from cover

I also encounter players that will hipfire and 1 hit you without even stopping to aim down their sites using bolt rifles, I know this is another hack

A lot of what you posted either isn't hard, a misunderstanding, or just desync in most cases.

Shooting inf running 200-400m away isn't hard if they're running in a straight line. Just have to know how much distance you need to lead which you pick up over time. It's even easier if they're sitting still. If they're blurry dots you may just need a new monitor, or do some downscaling from a higher res to improve visibility.

On the MG front, a lot of assets and objects despawn after only 150-200m. So an MG from a high enough vantage point can see out to the inf render distance of 500m, and if they're good they can hit you from that far pretty easily. Also the map terrain changes with LOD, so the little valley you're in just looks like flat open ground to someone from far enough away.

On the "didn't even look down his sights" front, nah thats just desync. Happens no matter what, but happens more often on high ping servers. I've been shot from someone looking the complete opposite direction, but from the vod and their POV they were looking right at me. There's also quick scoping which might have desync issues, but is 100% doable. Or they just fired and got lucky.

Cheaters do in fact exist in HLL. I know that for a fact, but everything you posted isn't anywhere close to proof of people cheating. Proof would be people shooting into the ground and killing everyone. Shooting from HQ and killing people 500-1000m+ away. Shooting perfectly through bushes at people they'd have no knowledge of given a circumstance.

[Gregory Stevens]

Originally posted by FlamingDeath:

Originally posted by PINEAPPLEPETE:

<SNIP>
Soft-hacking is definitely happening with use of macros for arty and scripts for perfect arty shots that do not vary at all they just land perfectly on top of the garrison, airhead, vehicles perfectly every shot with zero variation <SNIP>

Arithmetic is not hard

Example: German artillery
24mil per 100m

what is half of 24?
12

that's 50m

Whats a 3rd of 24?
8

That's 33m

Whats an 8th of 24?
3

That's 15m

Pretty accurate if you ask me when considering blast radius|

While there is cheating happening, I don't think cheats are needed to aim artillery

no scripts or calculators needed, just your brain if you have one

You don't have to believe me man, I've gone over 240 kills on arty so I'm not crap at it. I've also seen artillery shots land in the same exact spot every single time. They are supposed to vary off target, never perfectly where you're firing unless you either get lucky or fire many shots.

https://imgur.com/a/jGUYRmf

[CallMeDyl]

Originally posted by SNUFFLES:

the hacking in HLL is straight up legit. Fanbois refuse to admit it. You know who else refuses to admit it? Those that use the cheats. Often the same persons.

cheats are in every game, ignorant to think not

[[BRO]Ingvar]

Originally posted by Ratt:

Hmmmm - https://www. I won't post the rest.

I tell you. I'm seeing a lot of new level 20/30 guys making some really amazing shots, knowing exactly where people are, etc. That just doesn't happen this often with legit players. Not consistently. Sucks - going to end up ruining a great game.

Yeah same, see lvl 20's outpacing lvl 300 players with ridiuclous combat scores.

[RecoiL_Cdn]

Seem to know alot about all the cheats you could use, ey.... Shall we take it as a confession? aha

It takes very little effort to go online, search and find cheats for games. You can read through what cheats do what in the game and once you know what they can do it is easy to spot behaviours. The fact that you can be shot without any warning and no kill cam provided makes it easier to hide cheats in the game.
Have a look at the likes of BF1/5, it is harder to find a server without someone blatantly cheating because the mechanisms do not exist in that game for the server's occupants to remove the offending player. Also the serious lack of an effective anticheat in the game allows for cheaters to easily remove the fun from the game.
Just the other day while playing Warthunder, I discovered a cheater in simulation mode was shooting across the map at tanks they should not see. In over 10 years of playing I never thought there would be cheating in that game but here we are.