why is nobody talking...

[FatCap]

Its very frustrating for me to join a squad and most people dont use their mic. I mean playing this game on your own is a pretty dull experience...

[SgtWood]

This is why I like squad more, communication is much better there.

[Vlenzo]

You either play commander/squad leader and basically do everything or you don't.

[RoofKorea=BestKorea]

Originally posted by FatCap✘:

Its very frustrating for me to join a squad and most people dont use their mic. I mean playing this game on your own is a pretty dull experience...

combine long spawn times with no option to play sound in background and this is what you get. People are alt tabbed 33% of the time. but also, alost of the people in this game are just lazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that dont put effort into anything they do, IRL or online.

[Legion]

Right now it's because the VOIP is buggy and rarely works since 13.5. Mostly, it seems the local cuts out, but I've had my squad comms cut out and still have local. It's not just me, whoever I can still communicate with has the same issue. Didn't find one game tonight that didn't instantly have a problem. Can't really play a game like this with no communication. Going to have to wait for the fix. Spend all night in lines just to have the comms not work.. over and over and over.. Love the game.. Not waiting in line for 20 min to play squad based game where no one can hear you and you can't hear them. Be back later.

[FatCap]

Originally posted by Legion:

Right now it's because the VOIP is buggy and rarely works since 13.5. Mostly, it seems the local cuts out, but I've had my squad comms cut out and still have local. It's not just me, whoever I can still communicate with has the same issue. Didn't find one game tonight that didn't instantly have a problem. Can't really play a game like this with no communication. Going to have to wait for the fix. Spend all night in lines just to have the comms not work.. over and over and over.. Love the game.. Not waiting in line for 20 min to play squad based game where no one can hear you and you can't hear them. Be back later.

yeah ur right, this is also a big issue.
didnt happen to me that often so far tho

[moron from mountains]

The conflict between immersion and chat room has not ended.

[FatCap]

Originally posted by Moron from mountains:

The conflict between immersion and chat room has not ended.

don't get me wrong.
its not about smalltalk, its about reporting enemys and setting some attack ideas for ur squad as SL, so u can actually work as a Squad

[Sir_Dallin]

I usually play as squad lead and usually no mic'ers still carry out commands cause they're likely listening. the teamwork is usually there if at least squad leader has a mic. look for squad chat in the green sometimes they'll use that for comms

[moron from mountains]

Originally posted by FatCap✘:

Originally posted by Moron from mountains:

The conflict between immersion and chat room has not ended.

don't get me wrong.
its not about smalltalk, its about reporting enemys and setting some attack ideas for ur squad as SL, so u can actually work as a Squad

I feel you, though there is an over reliance on verbal communication. The game has built in non-verbal communication for team leader and squad leaders plus anyone can ping enemies. I find the issue of 'no one is talking' to be more an issue of squad leaders not marking instructions on the map. Most of the time i can't hear what people are saying to me anyway due to in-game noises, but personally i like the game sounds more than people talking. I can read pings and follow map markers easier than muffled, compressed, too loud, too quiet mics; especially when i'm trying to listen for things like footsteps, engines, shots n so on.
This is a personal dislike but servers that require squad leaders to have a mic, there are alot of good players who understand how the game works but cant squad lead as no mic, so instead of skill level you get mic quality level based leading.

[Teh_Diplomat]

The game suffers from Burnout; there is a chain of command in the game, but more importantly, there is a chain of knowledge that gets passed down; and lately it's suffering.


We've now got players well into the double digits (talking 50-60+, seen it as high as level 108) not knowing how capturing sectors works in Warfare mode.


Imagine playing any game, and someone joins your team and doesn't know you score points? Pick a sport, or any game, and realize how insane that is, lol




Well Hell Let Loose does this - and from my point of view; intentionally so that the community teaches each other, the issue is without any form of tutorial we're reliant on new players have first watched a 29 min Mono video to learn the ins and outs of the game. Few players one wants to do that (most people prefer to learn as they go, but give them the basics) nor should it be expected.

Game needs a brief (under a minute) tutorial that just explains things that shows new players what they need to know to enjoy the experience.

[ADHSteve]

The epidemic of new players funneling in, refusing to learn the game and just running-n-gunning is absurd. I don't have a problem with new players, ♥♥♥♥, we need them to continue to build a community - but no one puts effort into learning the game then complains and points fingers as to why they're taking Ls.

The only roles in the game where mics SHOULD be mandatory are the leadership roles. There's little to no reason for single-digit leveled players to be running these roles and not communicating. For Christ's sake, there's level 200s n' ♥♥♥♥ that don't talk.

Hell Let Loose is a strategy game first, shooter second. I have won against teams that were better mechanically, I've beaten hackers and I've had tons of excellent squads in my 500+ hours of playing... But every one of these instances was because we were communicating.

THE MOST FUN YOU WILL HAVE IS WHEN YOUR SQUAD COMMUNICATES. I don't know how this is a shock to some people - or why some people continue to deny this. Everyone's most memorable experiences in the came are, 90% of the time, when they had squads that worked and communicated together.

I really don't think I've seen it as bad as I have in the last couple months. It's caused me to look into competitive communities and not even because I want to be sweaty, but because I just have more fun when my team works together; win or lose. This isn't Call of Duty or Battlefield, if you want those experiences go play those games. This is a whole different animal and, if you like it, learn it.

[ADHSteve]

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

Well Hell Let Loose does this - and from my point of view; intentionally so that the community teaches each other, the issue is without any form of tutorial we're reliant on new players have first watched a 29 min Mono video to learn the ins and outs of the game. Few players one wants to do that (most people prefer to learn as they go, but give them the basics) nor should it be expected.

I agree that the crossroads are coming soon, where veterans are going to have to force themselves into leadership roles and then forcibly teach these new players. I do it from time to time when I'm frustrated, but the worst thing of it? A lot of these players don't ask for help, they don't want help, they get offended when you tell them what to do, they decide to do their own thing regardless of what you say, they don't say anything at all, they don't speak English, the list goes on...

[we are number one]

they are just reallllly shy or they are not in a position to speak (which is stupid on their part considering the game they are playing)

[ADHSteve]

Originally posted by we are number one:

they are just reallllly shy or they are not in a position to speak (which is stupid on their part considering the game they are playing)

I have pretty bad social anxiety, myself. But I realized that I wasn't trying to have a "conversation" per se, but just communicating about the game. There's not one veteran in this game that should be offended when you ask questions, I'm always relieved when someone does (there's still hope!).

[qiqifallen]

You could try finding more reliable people to play with: join communities, add people, etc.

If lack of communication becomes an issue in a game, I try moving around squads, making my own + kicking people as a last resort. If a specific person is unresponsive, I try calling their name. Try a simple greeting or asking if people have mics in a new squad.