Bazooka and panzershrek underpowered.

[Mellow_doomscroller]

Bazooka should be like a medium tank gun and the panzershrek like a heavy tank gun; check the armor penetration on sources of the internet.

[TWB*Clell_Miller]

I agree. Particularly on the panzershrek. My God, this thing was 88mm, 3.5 inches of hell. Within it's ideal range, this weapon was on shot lethal if it struck a solid central hit.

[CurrentlyOnRhinoPills]

"check the armor penetration on sources of the internet."
This game isn't really realistic though, if it were, it wouldn't be fun. Light tanks would be the unstoppable meta.

[Teh_Diplomat]

Little known fact in the game is that they are asymmetrical in their damage ability.


The Bazooka can only penetrate the Light Tank and Puma from the Front; and Panzer IV's from the side. However, they must hit the rear of Tigers and Panthers.

Conversely, the Panzerschreck can Penetrate even the Jumbo 76 from the front, albeit that is less effective that using on the sides, or rear.

[NoodleArms]

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

Little known fact in the game is that they are asymmetrical in their damage ability.


The Bazooka can only penetrate the Light Tank and Puma from the Front; and Panzer IV's from the side. However, they must hit the rear of Tigers and Panthers.

Conversely, the Panzerschreck can Penetrate even the Jumbo 76 from the front, albeit that is less effective that using on the sides, or rear.

This couldn't be more inaccurate.

[Zigzagman]

yea they nerfed them a while back they are kinda poo now.

[Teh_Diplomat]

Originally posted by NoodleArms:

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

Little known fact in the game is that they are asymmetrical in their damage ability.


The Bazooka can only penetrate the Light Tank and Puma from the Front; and Panzer IV's from the side. However, they must hit the rear of Tigers and Panthers.

Conversely, the Panzerschreck can Penetrate even the Jumbo 76 from the front, albeit that is less effective that using on the sides, or rear.

This couldn't be more inaccurate.

https://www.theline.gg/tankbible/#3.1


You can check it out yourself, the Bazooka on the charts get a Ricochet on much lighter vehicles than the Panzerschreck.

But essentially Heavy Tanks are staying alive unless you can get a 3rd rocket on it; but the Bazooka is less forgiving

[Virthuss (法國人在台灣)]

Technically German tanks were almost unvulnerable from the front, and traditionally heavier than American ones ( if a Panther is only a medium one for German, it explains Tiger 2 and Jagdtiger huge sizes ).
The jumbo might be a heavy Sherman, its still a Sherman. Only comparison would be a Comet for British or a Pershing ( and maybe the "super" Pershing ) for USA. In anyways Allies had air superiority toward the end of the war and Germany lacked oil, so USA didn't really send so many super heavy tanks to the front.

On the other side German heavy tanks suffered mobility and maintenance issues on top of being too heavy to be transported on some bridges or trains.
But that's not really shown in the game so German just have the advantage of having massive armor.

For realism I would recommend improving Bazooka damage the closest you are from the enemy tank. I also don't understand how a direct tank or bazooka hit on the rear of a tank could leave all the crew alive.

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Bazooka should have 3-4 shots and Panzerschreck 2-3 shots. Panerschreck should hit harder, but drop off quicker. Bazooka should still be able to one shot the Luchs from a proper side shot, but we don't get realistic damage models in this game like we get in Post Scriptum.

One thing that game did way better; armor gameplay. To bad it died the armor mode alone was worth it.

[[L9] Rhinopotamus]

Originally posted by Virthuss (法國人在台灣):

Technically German tanks were almost unvulnerable from the front, and traditionally heavier than American ones ( if a Panther is only a medium one for German, it explains Tiger 2 and Jagdtiger huge sizes ).
The jumbo might be a heavy Sherman, its still a Sherman. Only comparison would be a Comet for British or a Pershing ( and maybe the "super" Pershing ) for USA. In anyways Allies had air superiority toward the end of the war and Germany lacked oil, so USA didn't really send so many super heavy tanks to the front.

On the other side German heavy tanks suffered mobility and maintenance issues on top of being too heavy to be transported on some bridges or trains.
But that's not really shown in the game so German just have the advantage of having massive armor.

For realism I would recommend improving Bazooka damage the closest you are from the enemy tank. I also don't understand how a direct tank or bazooka hit on the rear of a tank could leave all the crew alive.

The Tiger should be able to be one shot from the front by the 76 and soon the 17 pounder... aim to the left side just above the track... goodbye ammo storage.

[NoodleArms]

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

The Bazooka can only penetrate the Light Tank and Puma from the Front

The only frontal shot a bazooka is making on the Luchs is going to be that hard to make mantlet shot trap that goes into the top of the tank which is doable in the Stuart because the Luchs can't kill you from the front, good luck doing that as a bazooka while it's pointed at you.

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

and Panzer IV's from the side

Bazookas do not penetrate Pz 4s from the side.

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

Conversely, the Panzerschreck can Penetrate even the Jumbo 76 from the front

Panzershrecks do not penetrate the Jumbo 76 from the front, the only frontal shot you can make on a heavy is the shoulder on the IS-1.

You linked the tank bible but couldn't even be bothered to read any of it if you weren't familiar with it from in game experience?

You're welcome to post video evidence of you bazooka'ing Pz4s from the side or shreking 76s from the front, track shots obviously do not count because they aren't killing stuff.

[Tofu Tofu Tofu]

I recently started playing armor more often.... I am still getting smoked pretty regularly by infantry with rockets. Some matches worse than others. I think it really depends on teamwork and multiple AT players coordinating their attack.

[Oberleutnant]

its a game lol

[Repentance†]

Originally posted by L9 Rhinopotamus:

Bazooka should have 3-4 shots and Panzerschreck 2-3 shots. Panerschreck should hit harder, but drop off quicker. Bazooka should still be able to one shot the Luchs from a proper side shot, but we don't get realistic damage models in this game like we get in Post Scriptum.

One thing that game did way better; armor gameplay. To bad it died the armor mode alone was worth it.

This was changed once the game left early access, Schreck had two shots hit really hard and bazooka had 3 and was weaker.

[TWB*Clell_Miller]

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

Originally posted by NoodleArms:

This couldn't be more inaccurate.

https://www.theline.gg/tankbible/#3.1


You can check it out yourself, the Bazooka on the charts get a Ricochet on much lighter vehicles than the Panzerschreck.

But essentially Heavy Tanks are staying alive unless you can get a 3rd rocket on it; but the Bazooka is less forgiving

NO heat round should EVER get a ricochet because of the nature of the warhead. Only an AP would ricochet.