Rampant hacks what now?

[Ezequiel]

So anyone know if the devs are acting to prevent hacks?

I have played alot of FPS game and most of them have hackers. From CS source, csgo, bfv, cod and all name it. But Hell Let loose hacks is the most disturbing and unacceptable among all. Compared to latest COD or BF games, hacks are tolerable and community tries to prevent them by adding server rules and limitation forcing hackers to be kicked or not join a server.

Upon reading on HLL discussion here, most community members are saying gitgud, skill issue, experiences and all bs - why are you denying that hacks are rampant and most players are not enjoying anymore. This game is cheaters vs cheaters now? You enjoy fooling yourselves?

On a basic research, you can see some people selling HLL hacks.

I wonder why this community is so toxic positive and cant admit that majority of games have hackers. The game is truly over rated at the moment because of this.

Check out this hack and also look at the comments. Admit that there is something wrong with the game so the devs will do something about it.

https://youtu.be/Qyk6q46qbHw

[Roovka]

Here we go again. Another person who thinks that doing a google search proves that a majority of players hack.

BurningWiki has no credibility either, so I sincerely wish people would stop using his word as gospel. He's a relative nobody.

[Ezequiel]

Originally posted by L9Roovka:

Here we go again. Another person who thinks that doing a google search proves that a majority of players hack.

BurningWiki has no credibility either, so I sincerely wish people would stop using his word as gospel. He's a relative nobody.

Ok here you are not from the guy. Cheater vs cheater enjoying each other. https://youtu.be/G_t8T-dYvm8

I really wonder why this community cant accept the fact that hacks are rampant so the devs can do something? What kind of community is this? Lol did you even see steam reviews and yt comments? You judged all people nub and you are pros?

[Roovka]

What people also miss is that Burning plays in the slavic region, an area known for being extremely hack infested on par with China. What he sees is not the norm for NA/EU especially if you play on servers with active admins.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

Originally posted by L9Roovka:

Here we go again. Another person who thinks that doing a google search proves that a majority of players hack.

BurningWiki has no credibility either, so I sincerely wish people would stop using his word as gospel. He's a relative nobody.

Ok here you are not from the guy. Cheater vs cheater enjoying each other. https://youtu.be/G_t8T-dYvm8

I really wonder why this community cant accept the fact that hacks are rampant so the devs can do something? What kind of community is this? Lol did you even see steam reviews and yt comments? You judged all people nub and you are pros?

Another person from the slavic region lol

[JohnnyBanana]

AAhhh sh!t here we go again

[ﾒ Keanu]

LOL.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by L9Roovka:

What people also miss is that Burning plays in the slavic region, an area known for being extremely hack infested on par with China. What he sees is not the norm for NA/EU especially if you play on servers with active admins.

sounds kinda racist

[ﾒ Keanu]

This discussion was opened because I commented on OPs review of the game. So I'll just comment on here.

No, hackers aren't rampant. No where near rampant. You get one every once in while, but they typically get banned quickly. What is rampant is players coming from COD/BF thinking they can play HLL the same way. You can't. What also is rampant is new players not realizing that the tall grass and wheat fields don't render at all after a certain distance. Also the hedges have low-poly models at distance that don't have nearly the coverage. You might think you're completely concealed, but to the enemy team you're just some dude crawling across an open field next to a hedge.

[Wankboy Doublefapp]

Originally posted by Keanu Uchiha:

but to the enemy team you're just some dude crawling across an open field next to a hedge.

my mg42 goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Ezequiel]

Its a never ending argument and pointless but you all admit there are hacks. Do we all agree that it should be resolved in any manner possible?

Ok so lets go back to the main question. Do any of you know if the devs have plans/news/updates or say or whatever regarding hacks?

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

Its a never ending argument and pointless but you all admit there are hacks. Do we all agree that it should be resolved in any manner possible?

Ok so lets go back to the main question. Do any of you know if the devs have plans/news/updates or say or whatever regarding hacks?

What should be done? Go ahead, give us some ideas.

[PlazaLord]

Devs run anticheat and aren't familiar with making actual anticheats. If they did, you may end up with some intruding program that runs on your system 24/7. At 600+ hours I have only seen one person who was definitely cheating(not including screen share/team swapping), and a couple of ones that were a maybe. Report them and the admins will take care of them - if you report and nothing happens, they are probably playing normally and it might be a you problem. (NA West Region)

In the current state of the game, cheating is pretty rare. Why would the devs devote resources to something that isn't really needed, as servers can moderate and remove them as needed. It's not toxic positive, its being grounded and looking beyond every death to think that maybe walking where your other 2 squad mates died was a bad idea.

Another thing that you don't recognize is most, if not all of these cheats cost a considerable amount of money - only the scum truly addicted to cheating will pay to do it. This is why there is a passive uptick in cheating on the free play weekends, because the cheat devs use it with new steam accounts to test their program, which they actually sell.

You claim that hacks are "rampant" but I don't see it. When you are new, almost all of your deaths look like the enemy is hacking. If you play this game like its battlefield, you will have a bad time. You need to move properly, and be looking.

TLDR: Find a server with active moderation, you will not run into any cheating. If you do, they won't be there for long. Actual cheating is pretty rare in this game.

[Stormfire962]

Originally posted by Maniac:

Originally posted by L9Roovka:

What people also miss is that Burning plays in the slavic region, an area known for being extremely hack infested on par with China. What he sees is not the norm for NA/EU especially if you play on servers with active admins.

sounds kinda racist

Don't turn this into a racist thing.

Stick to the facts and proof like what is linked here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7xz9cf/what_makes_online_cheating_so_prevalent_in_china/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/azwj51/as_a_chinese_player_i_feel_obliged_to_explain_why/

[Strontium Dog]

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

Its a never ending argument and pointless but you all admit there are hacks. Do we all agree that it should be resolved in any manner possible?

Ok so lets go back to the main question. Do any of you know if the devs have plans/news/updates or say or whatever regarding hacks?

If they put out a statement it would be admitting there is a problem, they're not gonna do that it would hurt sales.
I don't believe there's a hacking problem, but I only played on moderated servers.

[Emil]

Nice a 6 months old video. I don't know but does this Youtuber ever upload all them accounts getting banned, or is he bias, or too lazy to do follow-ups? Who knows, maybe he believe it'd ruin his career built on telling everyone a certain thing, eg, that there's hundreds of hackers roaming around in a certain game. What would he ever tell his coping following? That 99% of the times they die isn't because of a hacker, and they just suck at the game? Oof.

I remember doing a follow-up myself a time ago on a guy from one of his videos (the player had an unique Steam name) and the guy had gotten banned even before this Youtuber published his video, so to answer:

Originally posted by Ezequiel:

So anyone know if the devs are acting to prevent hacks?

Yes. Naturally, you won't see it work since hackers will just disappear. Again, there are plenty of mechanics in work now. Server admins can see a laser-line-of-fire to detect aimbots or sussy people looking through foliage/buildings. There's a trust system on a few servers where ''admin'' (might be the server) will kick you if your Steam profile doesn't fulfill a certain number of criterias like account level and age, amount of games, game hours, and so forth. EAC is still one of the more advanced Anti-Cheat systems out there. Real crap is Punkbuster, BattlEye or the non-existent AC of GTAO.

No system will instant ban a cheater with the exception of a few games where devs actively involve themselves in the process, albeit quite a few games do allow you to send them videos and that sometimes quicken the verdict (I've sent videos from CS:GO). You may argue that VAC or EAC allowing hackers to continue until the ban wave is hurting the game, and I'd agree with you. Unfortunately, hack-developers would just rapidly change methods and find new ways to bypass the patched security if the game-developers immediately banned the new hacks. It's a game of economical damage, and they are basically just hurting each other.