Grinding to get to class level 6 and 9 is absolutely idiotic

[Pepster]

its a terrible grind and the worst part of it is, the only and fastest way to get the is to play engineer, build nodes and then switch class to the one you want to grind.
that is not good game design

[Teh_Diplomat]

No it's not actually, it's extra capabilities for those with the patience and skill to unlock them.

Now you might be asking: How is skill involved in levelling up?

Well, with a game like this, I can't tell you how many high level players (talking levels 150+ here) don't have these prestige kits:

Level 6 & 9 Assault
Level 10 Support
Soviet level 8 AT for Bazooka

Simply because they rarely, if ever, built the nodes that the allowed their team to gain maximum resources and thus abilities to use during a 90 minute match.

Nor, do they consider how much XP can be provided by building a repair station nearby a tank (or on a point to hold) or defences in Offensive mode.


I'd say there are far more people sitting in those roles (Assault, AT) not exploiting them to maximum advantage in order to unlock those kits, than those who are grinding for the kits.


The fact remains that you won't kill your way to level 9 Assault; there aren't enough players in HLL to do so, hence why the nodes, repairs stations and, hammering will get you over the edge.

But now you want those very same kits, despite having paid very little into the teamwork fund to get it all done?

[Caelib]

Originally posted by Teh_Diplomat:

The fact remains that you won't kill your way to level 9 Assault; there aren't enough players in HLL to do so, hence why the nodes, repairs stations and, hammering will get you over the edge.

The vast, vast majority of HLL players are completely clueless on scoring. Most of the scoring is just from time played, except of course from things like you mentioned with nodes, building, etc.

There are ways to go faster, but the average HLL player is just Veruca Salt: "i want it now!"

[Pvt. Parts]

No one here has asked the obvious question: Why require a grind to unlock kits in the first place? It’s hardly a compelling gameplay mechanic. Some of us just don’t have that many hours to invest.

[AccelExhilar]

Originally posted by Pvt. Parts:

No one here has asked the obvious question: Why require a grind to unlock kits in the first place? It’s hardly a compelling gameplay mechanic. Some of us just don’t have that many hours to invest.

Someone answered this before as supposedly because the uniform cosmetics you get from higher level of a class were intended too stand out more and show the players class rank visually. However cosmetic DLCs having been released and surely more too come in the future, that are already more desirable / high quality than the base unlocks, makes this explanation outdated.

[Mr. Sir]

Anyone saying its fairly easy to level classes obviously doesnt have a job, the grind needs to be dimmed a bit down as plenty of us have 800+ hours in it and normally will be required to SL or Command and while my SL and Command rank is out the roof all my other classes are feeling like an absolute drag to level even with using nodes. Classes should be awarded proper xp for playing their designed roles. No one wants to grind so heavy in a game thats considered fast paced. The dispersion of xp for roles just isnt ample yet and assumes you have endless amounts of time to dedicate to playing a singular role or even game for that matter.

[MoistGamer]

good god this thread is full of losers. It takes too long to reach any level gate for new players, it probably isnt good for retention, and nobody cares if youve unlocked your classes 900 hours ago. Good for you, here's a sticker to put on the fridge.

[TopPerson]

I don't mind it too much, but it does feel like the grind system discourages players from playing roles the team needs. Players choose classes according to the needs of their personal grind, not the needs of the team. Definitely an issue.

[Rahl]

Don't you worry. I'm over 1k hours and still didn't level up all infantry on max level. Medic to go. And there is commander, recon team and tank crew.

[aoxo]

So dont grind. Just play the game and let the XP do it's thing in the background.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by MoistGamer:

good god this thread is full of losers. It takes too long to reach any level gate for new players, it probably isnt good for retention, and nobody cares if youve unlocked your classes 900 hours ago. Good for you, here's a sticker to put on the fridge.

Aside from the Flamethrower at support level 8, which is really awful anyway, and Bazooka for Soviet AT at level 8, you have access to all the tools at level 3 roles which at best is 2-3 games each. The only one that takes a long time is Assault level 9 because of its lack of utility and being a pure kill type of role.

If you're really so impatient, go to that silly bob the builder server.

[[EXD] FrozenDreams💀☯]

the kit bug happens after you minimise the game for so long

[G I|I Banzai]

Originally posted by Keel:

Originally posted by Pepster:

its a terrible grind and the worst part of it is, the only and fastest way to get the is to play engineer, build nodes and then switch class to the one you want to grind.
that is not good game design

Level 6 takes less than 10hours of gameplay without nodes.

If you're that desperate to level anything play BTB servers and max out the class in an hour or 2

^
This. If you want your loadout now just play on BTB Server. Otherwise just play the game.

It took me 30hrs to get all classes(inf, recon, tanks) to max level. So if you just need level 6.. thats like max 1,5 hrs on a dedicated Server.