Cheating is rampant now

[Darnell Biggumz]

In all of the 706.4 hours I’ve played this game, you’d rarely come across a cheater - Now, the game is simply plagued with them. It’s obvious and clear as day that it’s an ESP/Wall hack that’s being bought and going around because it’s rapidly progressing and it’s mainly MG’ers. I didn’t want to believe it until I saw footage, but it’s certainly a thing. Tested it out in lobbies that were suspicious and my methods for finding out were full proof and verified by other squad mates that I usually team up with that have many hours on the game.

If you’re out there and using this ♥♥♥♥, just know you’re driving the final nail in the coffin for a game that’s already hanging on by a thread. It doesn’t make you good and it’s obvious that you’re cheating. Put down mommy and daddy’s credit card and play the game the correct way so you can get absolutely ♥♥♥♥ on because you have zero skill. It’s sad that you have to completely break the game to be relevant into which I can’t even understand how that would be an enjoyable time doing that? Done with people ruining the game for other people and the whole experience.

There’s many people on here who simply deny that it’s happening and it needs to stop because you’re doing nothing but enabling it. It never used to happen often but it is now, so nip it in the bud with your admins on servers and get whoever decides to do this ♥♥♥♥ blacklisted on servers since TEAM17 isn’t going to do a damn thing about it.

Anyone questioning this, just take a simple search on YouTube for a guy named silence.

[Roovka]

*Insert comment about how there's less cheaters/hackers than people think and this is likely an overreaction to a couple of bad games*

*Insert response saying that I'm wrong and every game has a cheater and I'm an idiot for even trying to imply otherwise*

Do this 10 times and we have the entire comment section.

[Norman]

I cheated once, and my ex-wife took 'Hell Let Loose' pretty seriously in the divorce settlement.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by FlamingDeath:

Originally posted by Colonel Sanders:

Put down mommy and daddy’s credit card and play the game the correct way so you can get absolutely ♥♥♥♥ on because you have zero skill.

I think you'll find a lot of committed cheaters are full grown "adults"

All invertebrates are susceptible to classical conditioning.
A lot of cheaters are being rewarded for their antics

No person has ever been banned for cheating in online games
Accounts get banned, people do not

Tbf there have been individuals banned for cheating but these are pretty high profile cases and *incredibly* stupid like Forsaken in CSGO.

[garu]

Be aware there is a game bug where some structures at larger distance do not render for the player. Noticed that on Stalingrad where at ~170 meters i saw enemy player and was shooting at him wondering why i was not hitting him. Later when i went to that spot there was a wall and i realized he was behind it but it did not render for me. There are multiple places like that across many maps.

[Roovka]

I do wonder: What "methods" did you use? On what maps? What exactly makes them "full-proof"? More information would be nice.

[Marty_]

lol. Another game is “plagued” by cheaters thread. People have been claiming this for years….

[CoastalDog]

I'm not sure it's necessarily a huge uptick in cheaters, but I have noticed a huge new amount of stream snipers. A lot of people are clearly sitting on one side, streaming a map so the other team can find and nail OP's and garrisons as soon as they go up.

[xBCxRangers]

Originally posted by CoastalDog:

I'm not sure it's necessarily a huge uptick in cheaters, but I have noticed a huge new amount of stream snipers. A lot of people are clearly sitting on one side, streaming a map so the other team can find and nail OP's and garrisons as soon as they go up.

As a console main player, but playing this on PC, how would i know if there was a cheater? From what i've seen and heard, you shoot them and they don't die, or they're otherwise invincible killing everyone. Haven't seen anything like that yet. On Arma neither. Just team killing and booted for that.

[CoastalDog]

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

Originally posted by CoastalDog:

I'm not sure it's necessarily a huge uptick in cheaters, but I have noticed a huge new amount of stream snipers. A lot of people are clearly sitting on one side, streaming a map so the other team can find and nail OP's and garrisons as soon as they go up.

As a console main player, but playing this on PC, how would i know if there was a cheater? From what i've seen and heard, you shoot them and they don't die, or they're otherwise invincible killing everyone. Haven't seen anything like that yet. On Arma neither. Just team killing and booted for that.

Same as COD, wall hacking, auto aiming, fast running, teleportation, shooting while jumping, etc.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by CoastalDog:

Originally posted by xBCxRangers:

As a console main player, but playing this on PC, how would i know if there was a cheater? From what i've seen and heard, you shoot them and they don't die, or they're otherwise invincible killing everyone. Haven't seen anything like that yet. On Arma neither. Just team killing and booted for that.

Same as COD, wall hacking, auto aiming, fast running, teleportation, shooting while jumping, etc.

All of these are very commonly dealt with by admins if you take the time to alert them or get a recording if it's any of the obvious ones.

[CoastalDog]

Originally posted by Roovka:

Originally posted by CoastalDog:

Same as COD, wall hacking, auto aiming, fast running, teleportation, shooting while jumping, etc.

All of these are very commonly dealt with by admins if you take the time to alert them or get a recording if it's any of the obvious ones.

Yes, those are, but the streaming and map sniping is much harder to prove and generally is undetectable

[Roovka]

Originally posted by CoastalDog:

Originally posted by Roovka:

All of these are very commonly dealt with by admins if you take the time to alert them or get a recording if it's any of the obvious ones.

Yes, those are, but the streaming and map sniping is much harder to prove and generally is undetectable

As I told someone else here on the forum, while I agree that map sharing goes on, it's so hard to prove that it's better to try and keep any thoughts of it happening out of your mind when you're playing.

Don't ignore that it exists as a problem of course, but letting something you can't see or prove bother you, only causes issues with your own gameplay where you start pointing at it as a reason you're not doing well and increases any frustration you get while playing.

[Scooty Dirt]

It's extremely common for MG's to get falsely accused of cheating. Mostly because people don't understand how good they are. You can see stuff with an MG up to 300-400 meters easily if you're in the right spot. They're essentially automatic sniper rifles. Any elevation will increase your ability to spot people dramatically. Combine that with how the rendering works in this game, and you have a bunch of people complaining about cheaters that are getting sprayed down by a competent MG player.

[GOD-sSs-END]

Guys, there may very well be "some" cheating going on in Hell Let Loose. I have personally seen two instances of bonafide cheating in this game. And, like most of you, I too saw that infamous video from an actual HLL cheater on YouTube. But I highly doubt that cheating in Hell Let Loose is any worse than any other game on Steam. HLL is just not that popular, and there's just so very little to gain from cheating (for long) in Hell Let Loose. But here are two other important reasons why cheating in HLL is likely lower than most believe:

1) Cheats for HLL cost money and most people simply won't spend the dough.
2) The people selling cheats are often after more than your one-time purchase of a hack.

(Purchase a hack for any game, and your bank account is likely to go bye-bye.)

Instead, consider the following the next time you're getting your a$$ handed to you in HLL:

1) Even a modestly-better graphics card provides an advantage to players in HLL.
2) Even a modestly-better CPU and motherboard provides an advantage...
3) Headphones provide an "extraordinary" advantage over speakers.
4) A "very" large TV, as a monitor, provides an advantage over almost any PC monitor.

I'm nearly blind (legally blind as of Oct. 18, 2022), so I have all four of these "advantages" on my side. Without them, I can't even play Hell Let Loose. But any of these advantages in the hands of most any other player will help one perform much "better" at the game.

Bottom line: if you're playing on a potato, consider an upgrade in this order:

1) Increase the size of your playing screen. I use a 55-inch, 120hz Samsung.
2) Get headphones and learn to hear before you see in close-range engagements.
3) Get a better GPU (RTX 3000 series or better - AMD equivalent)

(You need at least one PCI-E 4.0 slot for item "3". You'll bottleneck otherwise.)
(Also, ensure you properly power these cards. Most people do not.)

4) Lastly, upgrade your CPU and motherboard (if you don't already have PCI-E 4.0).

Any chips in or better than the i9 series or their AMD equivalent will help you climb on top of the meaty curve of mediocre. Upgrade all four, and people may soon call hacks on you.

See you on the battlefield.

[Darnell Biggumz]

I was just stating that is is happening. There's a single cheat that's going around and its most certainly ESP/Wall hacks. I wasn't getting my ass "handed" to me or complaining about it, I'm just saying I know the obvious from actual game skill. I don't want it killing a game that is already dying. I've noticed it more with MG's and yes i know how they can be a "sniper", but there's been seem very sus activity that I would purposely make my mission during a match to validate that it is actual cheating.