game is overrunned by aimbot losers

[Fluxor]

wow the cheating on this game is so pathetic....

[MoodyStarbuck]

Publicado originalmente por Martubb:

Nope. It’s more likely just that us decent players are better than you. You must have been one of those four clueless enemy players I shot in the head in a trench. None of them seemed to know they were in a firefight, let alone where they were, just like most people that complain everyone is hacking. Lack of skill is most likely the culprit on your end.

A working cheat for Hell let Loose is currently 30$ though. So it's not like there are no cheaters in this.

[(Dads Army) Private Pike.]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por Private Pike (Dads Army):

the free weekend is in progress if you paid attention ....So I tried it hence my comments.Plus if you look carefully ...unless you need to go to spec savers there is an icon at the side of my name saying "has hell let loose"

So you spent... what? A couple of hours maybe? You start to die less when you put more time in and learn the maps, where the hot spots are, etc. This is a game where you're going to go in and die a lot if you aren't receptive to learning.

Besides this isn't the type of thread you should be commenting on as it's about some equally new player like you blaming hacks instead of actually taking time to learn/understand the game.

I never mentioned the word "hacks" like I said before you need to go to spec savers read CAREFULLY what is stated before you make any comments.

[mesene7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1FSO0nrQs&ab_channel=BurningWiki
there's a lot of cheating players in hell let lose what is the matter with you guys!

[Malker]

Publicado originalmente por TWB*Clell_Miller:

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

wow the cheating on this game is so pathetic....

And you will almost never comprehend the direction.

poor directional audio

[crackshot]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por crackshot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_zGbGHwUFw

im usually pretty good at finding cheaters.
but this one last night was brilliant, 3 in the last 2 weeks. on 1 server.
ever since the pubg cheat nonsense was brought to our attention.

what you think?
cheating?

(watch in HD)

i think the way HLL is setup for admins, you can literally by process of elimination or simple math. spot a cheater, at the same time. the cheater isn't aware because theres no focus on k/d or promoting kill message/feeds to server. then wham. ban hammer

This looked like lag due to the character model movement. Make sure you're playing on the server closest to you and when something like this happened, immediately press tab and see if anyone on the enemy team has a vastly higher ping than you.

interesting,
ok i forgot to add,
this was on our company server, so we have admin, I snapped this on relive,
we had eyes on him, he did some weird stuff, like would be in positions you wonder how he got there, like no garry/op near by and hes just like afk standing there.
re- latency. interesting take. so this is what it can look like from a lagging observer or a lagging combatant? , could explain why the aim snap. however this server is 29 ping to me (60-80 round trip) , yeah forgot to mention we had the ability to police.
just wanted every ones takes on it. currently he remains in the game i think.
but then again, i had this same situation with another player last night too.
so perhaps this is as you say. i know it happens when you pop in off a op/garry.
used to be just map icons etc sped up. now in U12 the game visually speeds up when u come in sometimes, and i swear ive had the game on like 1.5x turbo for a few seconds and slowly comes down. even op/garry noises are spoken faster for a few seconds. ..

i'll relay this to our command/hq so we can avoid policing innocents for hardware issues =)

[AnthraX]

🤣

[Fluxor]

Publicado originalmente por mesene7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1FSO0nrQs&ab_channel=BurningWiki
there's a lot of cheating players in hell let lose what is the matter with you guys!

just sad loser seeking for atention and in denial of the truth. the comments of those losers in this post just proof that....

[Roovka]

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

Publicado originalmente por mesene7:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1FSO0nrQs&ab_channel=BurningWiki
there's a lot of cheating players in hell let lose what is the matter with you guys!

just sad loser seeking for atention and in denial of the truth. the comments of those losers in this post just proof that....

Cheaters are extremely rare and in 95% of cases the people making the accusations have very little proof other than "look at these cheats that exist because i found them on a google search". Any cheat you find through google is already going to be detected through EAC (which is NOT a good anticheat btw which makes it even more hilarious) and in most cases, not all of them, admins on community run servers have enough of an understanding of the game to judge if someone is being suspicious.

In a majority of cases as well it's a low level player with very little time put into the game complaining about cheats and hacks. My first rule when someone calls someone a hacker is to hit tab, see how much time has passed in the game, and then look at all the combat effectiveness' of the enemy, see if there's anything suspiciously high, and then the level of the person making the accusation. It's laughably surprising how often it turns out someone is just upset about dying. Like you.

[Fluxor]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

just sad loser seeking for atention and in denial of the truth. the comments of those losers in this post just proof that....

Cheaters are extremely rare and in 95% of cases the people making the accusations have very little proof other than "look at these cheats that exist because i found them on a google search". Any cheat you find through google is already going to be detected through EAC (which is NOT a good anticheat btw which makes it even more hilarious) and in most cases, not all of them, admins on community run servers have enough of an understanding of the game to judge if someone is being suspicious.

In a majority of cases as well it's a low level player with very little time put into the game complaining about cheats and hacks. My first rule when someone calls someone a hacker is to hit tab, see how much time has passed in the game, and then look at all the combat effectiveness' of the enemy, see if there's anything suspiciously high, and then the level of the person making the accusation. It's laughably surprising how often it turns out someone is just upset about dying. Like you.

Nope just more lame excuses from a loser how cant handle truth and fact. You living in a fantasy and a lie.... now try again....

[Roovka]

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Cheaters are extremely rare and in 95% of cases the people making the accusations have very little proof other than "look at these cheats that exist because i found them on a google search". Any cheat you find through google is already going to be detected through EAC (which is NOT a good anticheat btw which makes it even more hilarious) and in most cases, not all of them, admins on community run servers have enough of an understanding of the game to judge if someone is being suspicious.

In a majority of cases as well it's a low level player with very little time put into the game complaining about cheats and hacks. My first rule when someone calls someone a hacker is to hit tab, see how much time has passed in the game, and then look at all the combat effectiveness' of the enemy, see if there's anything suspiciously high, and then the level of the person making the accusation. It's laughably surprising how often it turns out someone is just upset about dying. Like you.

Nope just more lame excuses from a loser how cant handle truth and fact. You living in a fantasy and a lie.... now try again....

The irony in your response is overwhelming.

[Fluxor]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

Nope just more lame excuses from a loser how cant handle truth and fact. You living in a fantasy and a lie.... now try again....

The irony in your response is overwhelming.

Pathetic you even cant give my a good counter argument. Thats just sad.

[Roovka]

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

The irony in your response is overwhelming.

Pathetic you even cant give my a good counter argument. Thats just sad.

I did. And your "counter argument" was to call me "a loser how cant handle truth and fact".

Clearly you're either just a troll or someone with severe mental issues that need to be resolved in therapy, not on the steam forums. Hope you get the help you need.

[Fhuey]

I feel like there are more people using Wallhacks/ESP/Radar now, but never anyone aimbotting. Would be nice to have some sort of report system or kill feed.

[Fluxor]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

Pathetic you even cant give my a good counter argument. Thats just sad.

I did. And your "counter argument" was to call me "a loser how cant handle truth and fact".

Clearly you're either just a troll or someone with severe mental issues that need to be resolved in therapy, not on the steam forums. Hope you get the help you need.

you better just leave steam forums totally your just a discrase of a person with no dignity. i think you are the one that need mental help and not me. im gonna stop now responding to you. there is no reason to respond to a metally disabled person

[Gristle]

Publicado originalmente por Roovka:

Publicado originalmente por Fluxor:

just sad loser seeking for atention and in denial of the truth. the comments of those losers in this post just proof that....

Cheaters are extremely rare and in 95% of cases the people making the accusations have very little proof other than "look at these cheats that exist because i found them on a google search". Any cheat you find through google is already going to be detected through EAC (which is NOT a good anticheat btw which makes it even more hilarious) and in most cases, not all of them, admins on community run servers have enough of an understanding of the game to judge if someone is being suspicious.

In a majority of cases as well it's a low level player with very little time put into the game complaining about cheats and hacks. My first rule when someone calls someone a hacker is to hit tab, see how much time has passed in the game, and then look at all the combat effectiveness' of the enemy, see if there's anything suspiciously high, and then the level of the person making the accusation. It's laughably surprising how often it turns out someone is just upset about dying. Like you.

Cheating in online games is a lot more common than people realise -

Forbes [www.forbes.com] reports that 37% of gamers cheat

Or how about

Research paper [dl.acm.org] on steam shows that 700,000 accounts are flagged for cheating and that use of cheats spreads like a contagion

Even the most basic of google searches results in peer reviewed papers on the frequency of cheating and the impact it has on the software industry. If you consider how many people are impacted by those cheating then it becomes easier to understand why people react in the way they do.

Publicado originalmente por Fhuey:

I feel like there are more people using Wallhacks/ESP/Radar now, but never anyone aimbotting. Would be nice to have some sort of report system or kill feed.

I feel the same way and I believe that people are getting smarter with their use of software assistance. I don't envy admins trying to identify those playing well vs those cheating. Bad boy beaman has an interesting youtube channel where he conducts analysis of cheating videos/evidence - so much of it involves a synthesis of observations and understand of game/map mechanics, and very rarely is the answer clear cut.

Even though I think cheating is a lot more common in HLL than players are willing to accept I'm not an advocate of kill feeds - the game is so much about positional advantage that giving that information away after a single kill I believe would be a significant loss to the game. I would like there to be more effective reporting methods (which isn't dependent on server admins) so that suspect players can be removed with greater ease.