If swastika is not allowed then why developers have no problems with Soviet emblems?

[mejku]

This is something I can't understand. Both of these military blocks were evil to the bones, yet one always gets better treatment.

[Stop The Boats]

Because use or display of the swastika, as the symbol of the German National Socialist regime, is illegal or highly regulated in various territories. If it was included in the game, then the game could not be legally sold in those territories. And the swastika represents a genocidal ideology, while the hammer and sickle (which I am assuming you mean by soviet emblems) just represents the ideology which in itself isn't genocidal. Tldr Nazism is genocidal and socialism/communism isn't

[mejku]

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Tldr Nazism is genocidal and socialism/communism isn't

Then read about their gualgs, "operation Poland" and Katyń. Nothing genocidal about it.

[crackshot]

the nazi's didnt lose the war, Germany did.

how can you learn from history if you keep distorting it.
keep the swastika i say. its our lesson.

[Stop The Boats]

Publicado originalmente por mejku:

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Tldr Nazism is genocidal and socialism/communism isn't

Then read about their gualgs, "operation Poland" and Katyń. Nothing genocidal about it.

USSR doesn't equal socialism as a whole the hammer and sickle was a socialist symbol meant to represent the workers. it wasn't used as a symbol of hate unlike the swastika

Publicado originalmente por CHMA | crackshot:

the nazi's didnt lose the war, Germany did.

how can you learn from history if you keep distorting it.
keep the swastika i say. its our lesson.

Banning the swastika doesn't prevent any learning from history, Germans learn extensively about the holocaust and ww2 and the swastika is banned there.

[Lexy]

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Publicado originalmente por mejku:

Then read about their gualgs, "operation Poland" and Katyń. Nothing genocidal about it.

USSR doesn't equal socialism as a whole the hammer and sickle was a socialist symbol meant to represent the workers. it wasn't used as a symbol of hate unlike the swastika

Publicado originalmente por CHMA | crackshot:

the nazi's didnt lose the war, Germany did.

how can you learn from history if you keep distorting it.
keep the swastika i say. its our lesson.

Banning the swastika doesn't prevent any learning from history, Germans learn extensively about the holocaust and ww2 and the swastika is banned there.

yeah and the swastika was originally a symbol of luck (India) or Thors Hammer (Norse)
so whats your point?
the widely accepted meaning of symbols changes over time

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Because use or display of the swastika, as the symbol of the German National Socialist regime, is illegal or highly regulated in various territories. If it was included in the game, then the game could not be legally sold in those territories.

^This is the actual reason and only answer that was required

[Stop The Boats]

Publicado originalmente por Lexy:

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

USSR doesn't equal socialism as a whole the hammer and sickle was a socialist symbol meant to represent the workers. it wasn't used as a symbol of hate unlike the swastika


Banning the swastika doesn't prevent any learning from history, Germans learn extensively about the holocaust and ww2 and the swastika is banned there.

yeah and the swastika was originally a symbol of luck (India) or Thors Hammer (Norse)
so whats your point?
the widely accepted meaning of symbols changes over time

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Because use or display of the swastika, as the symbol of the German National Socialist regime, is illegal or highly regulated in various territories. If it was included in the game, then the game could not be legally sold in those territories.

^This is the actual reason and only answer that was required

1. The swastika was not inspired by those symbols and has separate meaning in the context of ww2 and to this day.
2. Providing the reasoning for why the swastika is banned and not the hammer and sickle was the point for the rest of it, as the question also asked why the hammer and sickle wasn't banned.

[Pfc. S.D.Plissken [10th MD]]

Publicado originalmente por mejku:

This is something I can't understand. Both of these military blocks were evil to the bones, yet one always gets better treatment.

Because certain societies and groups have a hard on for Hitler, while Stalin was no better by far if not worse period.

I guess more political powers was involved in helping Hitler get to what he became so they have to deny,deny,deny some how ain't it... Cough cough US,England ahhmm cough

Most of the stuff the west has today wouldn't have been possible at the time without Nazi scientist and other Germans they gave amnesties to.

Those of you who like Adidas knows what I'm puttin down ;)

[Taiji]

Publicado originalmente por mejku:

This is something I can't understand. Both of these military blocks were evil to the bones, yet one always gets better treatment.

It's just money. They want to be able to sell the game in Germany. That's all.

[BIG E.]

Well imo things shouldn't be banned if they are used in context of historical accuracy. Not that i care i just play this game to shoot things but lets be real nobody is gonna look at swastika in a niche WW2 game, go outside and execute people.

If you are gonna ban something do it according to context, always.

[Not an Orphan]

It's simply about what it represents, not what was done by the country flying the flag.

[mejku]

Both represent disgusting ideologies.

[Doomed]

Publicado originalmente por Stop The Boats:

Because use or display of the swastika, as the symbol of the German National Socialist regime, is illegal or highly regulated in various territories. If it was included in the game, then the game could not be legally sold in those territories. And the swastika represents a genocidal ideology, while the hammer and sickle (which I am assuming you mean by soviet emblems) just represents the ideology which in itself isn't genocidal. Tldr Nazism is genocidal and socialism/communism isn't

I know you think you are smart judging by reading all your comments but i hate to tell you that you are wrong in all your assumptions...unless we are still living before 2018 idk maybe im in the future.

[Dripladopeus]

because you lost the war. suck it

[burthole]

They teach us that the atomic bomb ended the war in Japan but the truth is the Japanese were very much aware of how parts of Germany were annexed by the Soviets and that the Russians were preparing to launch an invasion on Japanese mainland. The Japanese were so afraid of Soviet occupation they surrendered to the Western allies unconditionally.

The reason for this fear is because of how Soviet/Russian soldiers treated the german civilians they occupied. It's been recorded by several sources that no german woman or child was sparred from russian rape gangs during soviet occupation of east germany.

TLDR: Soviet soldiers were worse than nazi soldiers but they won their war so their flag gets to say up.

[Roovka]

Publicado originalmente por BIG E.:

Well imo things shouldn't be banned if they are used in context of historical accuracy. Not that i care i just play this game to shoot things but lets be real nobody is gonna look at swastika in a niche WW2 game, go outside and execute people.

If you are gonna ban something do it according to context, always.

I think you're confusing historical accuracy with historical education. If this was a learning game designed for teaching people about WW2 then I'd agree with you. Also HLL is not a historically accurate game. It just happens to be a game set in WW2.

People need to stop conflating the German Army with the Nazis, it's why people think when they RP on the German side that they have to be as "Nazi" as possible and can end up banned from servers (have seen several threads made from these people). SS Soldiers were Nazis. The average foot soldier was not and was just fighting for their country.