Where is dedicated server hosting application? :: Hell Let Loose General Discussions

Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 9:59am

there is not server hosting software included in the game, you have to use a 3rd party server vendor in order to host a server. The devs have stated its about code security or some such.
...I think its just about money... considering the rise in hackers recently...

Last edited by Digital Merc; Dec 31, 2021 @ 10:01am

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Monkey man has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 11:13am

Originally posted by Digital Merc:
there is not server hosting software included in the game, you have to use a 3rd party server vendor in order to host a server. The devs have stated its about code security or some such.
...I think its just about money... considering the rise in hackers recently...

That is kind of ridiculous. The devs dont want to run their own servers and want to leave it up to the community to host servers...fine. Plenty of games do that. But make it so anyone can host a dedicated server. I am already willing to pay the electric bill for running a server for them, but now they want to extort money from me for helping them out? No thanks.

Last edited by Monkey man; Dec 31, 2021 @ 11:13am

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TWB*Clell_Miller has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 3:25pm

Look. It's always been this way. You want the publisher to host servers? Are you out of your economic mind? Lease one like the rest of world humanity. $70 bucks a month. This business model goes back decades. Who are you?

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Korben Dallas has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 3:27pm

Originally posted by TWB*Clell_Miller:
Look. It's always been this way. You want the publisher to host servers? Are you out of your economic mind? Lease one like the rest of world humanity. $70 bucks a month. This business model goes back decades. Who are you?

You're kidding yourself if you think its that way for any other reason besides them shifting costs.

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Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 7:04pm

Originally posted by TWB*Clell_Miller:
Look. It's always been this way. You want the publisher to host servers? Are you out of your economic mind? Lease one like the rest of world humanity. $70 bucks a month. This business model goes back decades. Who are you?

most steam games do have local/hosting capabilities, and with the exception of console oriented developers [EA, Ubisoft] almost ALL titles come with the server hosting software.

...and its not a "decades old" business model, not including the server host file has only been a thing for MAYBE the last five-seven years, at most.

and OP never said anything about the developer hosting their own servers [BUT THEY DO, THE COMMUNITY SERVERS ARE OBVIOUSLY OWNED/OPERATED BY BLACK MATTER], he was asking where the files were located so they could host their own.

read more, project less?

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Korben Dallas has Hell Let Loose

Dec 31, 2021 @ 9:38pm

This could easily be solved by a partner/licensing program.

They clearly signed an exclusivity deal with someone.

Im sure they deflect with something something code security. Most of these comments dont understand what that even means or are wrong. This is about $$$

#6

Andy

Dec 31, 2021 @ 11:14pm

Originally posted by FlamingDeath:
I suspect the reason for not releasing the server binaries to the public is as Digital Merc explained, code security.

The fact that it's the industry norm to allow server hosting shows that's a bit of tin foil hat going on.
There's no valid reason or excuse for not having it.
The server still has to be run through steam. It's not like it's a complete free for all.

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Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Jan 1, 2022 @ 9:35am

Originally posted by FlamingDeath:
I suspect the reason for not releasing the server binaries to the public is as Digital Merc explained, code security.

So many games require admin privileges, imagine connecting to a server using your client, and the next thing you know all your drives are encrypted with friendly note asking for bitcoin

It's not happened yet, but it could

the developers have openly stated as such, I'm pretty sure it was a steam discussion from last year... but it might have been something I asked on discord, honestly I don't recall which source I heard it from... just that the official response was code security.

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comunidadfumaosdedodses has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 12:31am

Originally posted by Digital Merc:
Originally posted by FlamingDeath:
I suspect the reason for not releasing the server binaries to the public is as Digital Merc explained, code security.

So many games require admin privileges, imagine connecting to a server using your client, and the next thing you know all your drives are encrypted with friendly note asking for bitcoin

It's not happened yet, but it could
the developers have openly stated as such, I'm pretty sure it was a steam discussion from last year... but it might have been something I asked on discord, honestly I don't recall which source I heard it from... just that the official response was code security.

Fortunately, there are few developers with this security problem.
A pity that it is not possible to create a dedicated server, it is not about money, most communities have their own machine where they host their servers. These are hardly going to rent any server. Clearly, it's a business model that I don't think will be successful in the long run. It will limit the interest of many clans that are usually the ones that manage to maintain interest in the game for the longest time.
Hope they rectify soon as the game seems to be worth it.

Last edited by comunidadfumaosdedodses; Jan 7, 2022 @ 12:40am

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][ƒцмąôş ® TORRENTE Jan 7, 2022 @ 12:49am

Originally posted by Beavis:
This could easily be solved by a partner/licensing program.

They clearly signed an exclusivity deal with someone.

Im sure they deflect with something something code security. Most of these comments dont understand what that even means or are wrong. This is about $$$

I agree, I think that with that they doomed their work to failure. PS: If there are more servers, more copies of the game will be sold.

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Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:28am

Originally posted by comunidadfumaosdedodses:
Originally posted by Digital Merc:
the developers have openly stated as such, I'm pretty sure it was a steam discussion from last year... but it might have been something I asked on discord, honestly I don't recall which source I heard it from... just that the official response was code security.
Fortunately, there are few developers with this security problem.
A pity that it is not possible to create a dedicated server, it is not about money, most communities have their own machine where they host their servers. These are hardly going to rent any server. Clearly, it's a business model that I don't think will be successful in the long run. It will limit the interest of many clans that are usually the ones that manage to maintain interest in the game for the longest time.
Hope they rectify soon as the game seems to be worth it.

with them selling the IP to team17 without a word to the community about if they're still in creative control or not, i fully believe that the desired intent of rental-only servers was based in greed. I thought this indie dev studio would do right by their playerbase and stay true to their vision... guess I was the gullible fool as they've totally sold out.

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kingsbishop7 has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:33am

OP - Best way to find out is rent a server, and take a look at what is available in your areas of interest. (AKA - Do it the Old Fashion Way.)

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Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:35am

Originally posted by kingsbishop7:
OP - Best way to find out is rent a server, and take a look at what is available in your areas of interest. (AKA - Do it the Old Fashion Way.)

have you ever rented a server before? you don't get access to most of the files, you access "your" server from a website with a very limited amount of files that can be modified.

if you're trying to [poorly] suggest that OP look for the game hosting files from a game hosting website, thats not how reality works, and is exactly how Black Matter keeps the core server files from being in "any rando's hands" ...only server hosting companies Black Matter/Team17 are doing business with have access to the actual server files.

Now if we're talking about Counter-Strike, it ships with the server hosting software bundled and you just have to set it up yourself. Thats not how they shipped/built HLL.

Last edited by Digital Merc; Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:38am

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kingsbishop7 has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:39am

Originally posted by Digital Merc:
have you ever rented a server before? you don't get access to most of the files, you access "your" server from a website with a very limited amount of files that can be modified.

if you're trying to [poorly] suggest that OP look for the game hosting files from a game hosting website, thats not how reality works.

What ever the intent you still have to work with the resources/tools you have available.

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Digital Merc has Hell Let Loose

Jan 7, 2022 @ 9:42am

Originally posted by kingsbishop7:
Originally posted by Digital Merc:
have you ever rented a server before? you don't get access to most of the files, you access "your" server from a website with a very limited amount of files that can be modified.

if you're trying to [poorly] suggest that OP look for the game hosting files from a game hosting website, thats not how reality works.

What ever the intent you still have to work with the resources/tools you have available.

are you high or something? you're not making much sense... OP was wanting to be able to host a server without RENTING one. You're implying "just rent one" how is that in any way constructive or useful in this discussion
...dafuq?

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