The STG sucks and I hate you

[goatse]

Somehow you've made the STG nothing but the worst SMG in the game. The MP40 which fires 9mm is just as powerful, somehow. The thompson is somehow just as good at range. The BAR is just superior in every way despite being a quarter century older.
Instead of being one of the most advanced weapons of the era, the first assault rifle, you just made a ♥♥♥♥ SMG and you should feel bad. This isn't historically accurate, its just devs trying to "balance" things and Americans jerking themselves off. Hence the grease gun being better than the STG(!?)

Only really dawned on me just how absolutely ♥♥♥♥ the STG is once I started grinding automatic rifleman today, in an attempt to get to the new FG42. Just absolute ♥♥♥♥. Worthless. The MP40 is better, and it still sucks.

Rant over

[Jewpacabra]

Unfortunately they nerfed it some time ago, it was much more deadly on longer ranges.
Now it needs 2-3 shots beyond 50-75 meters i believe?

[Uhzu]

I’m sure they’ll fix it. It was “balanced” to fit the FG42 in there. When the they add the modified M1 carbine (full auto). It’ll balance out.

[[BLK] Telu]

Welcome in Nerf let loose. Where every gun jump between your hands when you are shooting.

[vJIG SAW]

The game is not a simulator by any means. The majority of players seemed to want fair and balance over realism and historical accuracy. You cant have both, the game made the decision to take on the casual approach a long time ago.

[LowDragMaxSag]

Even though the BAR is old that 30.06 round packs a wallop compared to the Kurz.

[[BLK] Telu]

The BAR shoot better than the STG now ... it's so pathetic. x)

[DerRitter]

Damn

[goatse]

Originally posted by vJIG SAW:

The game is not a simulator by any means. The majority of players seemed to want fair and balance over realism and historical accuracy. You cant have both, the game made the decision to take on the casual approach a long time ago.

They should weight the teams instead of nerfing weapons. Maybe Utah beach should be 40 v 60 for example

[[BLK] Telu]

CS is not a simulator but the weapon ballistic is way better than in this game. I've destroy his argument.

[SoulSniper]

The STG is a solid weapon and I prefer it over the BAR as I find the recoil easier to control. It also has wicked suppression and plenty of power/damage. Not sure what you're talking about. Also, the devs aren't American, so your theory about Americans jerking themselves off by buffing their weapons makes no sense lol.

[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by SoulSniper:

The STG is a solid weapon and I prefer it over the BAR as I find the recoil easier to control. It also has wicked suppression and plenty of power/damage. Not sure what you're talking about. Also, the devs aren't American, so your theory about Americans jerking themselves off by buffing their weapons makes no sense lol.

i don't know man, i just played the STG44 and the recoil went up big time. almost seems like a noodle armed weakling is holding it now.

And the devs are really far from being wehraboos. they're quite the opposite which is why for a while the americans were steamrolling the germans.

so the devs added some semi autos and full autos , and then the "muh realizzzm" crowd cried to no end about too many autos.

and the devs being the devs they are said "oh we are listening, so you said to nerf german weapons right?, gotcha!".

they hate the german faction. took out the panther and replaced it with arguably the weakest of all the tanks. the tiger is even more expensive.

i would say that team17/black matter/flip 17 or whatever they're called now really does keep fixing something, but the wrong way.

all they had to do was take out a full auto here or there. but noooooo....

[Altair (アルタイル)]

Did the STG got changed again? Last time I've used it was deadly accurate and one of the weapon to go for me on assault if it got changed and having a bad recoil or accuracy I don't know what to say, might give it a try later and see how it goes.

[WaTaHa || Kirkor]

Originally posted by goatse:

Only really dawned on me just how absolutely ♥♥♥♥ the STG is once I started grinding automatic rifleman today, in an attempt to get to the new FG42.

Haha, don't even bother. You'll get even more disappointed =]
It's insanely inacurate with auto, and it's quite hard to do single shots with it (why there is no fire-mode switch yet in this game is beyond me)

The sniper FG42 is even more lughable, as you need 2 shots to kill anyone... Yes, two friggen shots with a full-sized rifle cartridge. This is beyond ridiculous.


Oh, and they took down the bipod functionality from both FG42 versions...

[[BLK] Telu]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by SoulSniper:

The STG is a solid weapon and I prefer it over the BAR as I find the recoil easier to control. It also has wicked suppression and plenty of power/damage. Not sure what you're talking about. Also, the devs aren't American, so your theory about Americans jerking themselves off by buffing their weapons makes no sense lol.

i don't know man, i just played the STG44 and the recoil went up big time. almost seems like a noodle armed weakling is holding it now.

And the devs are really far from being wehraboos. they're quite the opposite which is why for a while the americans were steamrolling the germans.

so the devs added some semi autos and full autos , and then the "muh realizzzm" crowd cried to no end about too many autos.

and the devs being the devs they are said "oh we are listening, so you said to nerf german weapons right?, gotcha!".

they hate the german faction. took out the panther and replaced it with arguably the weakest of all the tanks. the tiger is even more expensive.

i would say that team17/black matter/flip 17 or whatever they're called now really does keep fixing something, but the wrong way.

all they had to do was take out a full auto here or there. but noooooo....

Great review. I'm 100% agree with this statement.

[Z.E.R.T.]

Originally posted by vJIG SAW:

The game is not a simulator by any means. The majority of players seemed to want fair and balance over realism and historical accuracy. You cant have both, the game made the decision to take on the casual approach a long time ago.

not true only fortine player want that we dont want them,