Dan Carlin (Hardcore History) talks to HLL dev about wargaming!

[Dysfunkto]

Some pretty interesting food for thought in this discussion.

(Also mentions them thinking of nerfing the amount of automatic weapons in the game)

https://youtu.be/QkcZk1O6xmI

[Decoy]

Dan is the best

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by Dysfunkto:

(Also mentions them thinking of nerfing the amount of automatic weapons in the game)

That's actually a bad sign. Every time they mentioned reducing the amount of automatics in the game we got even more with the next update. It has been ages since the devs did what they said. At this point it's just PR talk. I always have to laugh when someone mentions HLL and historical accuracy in the same sentence.

[ZeroFuqsGiven]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Originally posted by Dysfunkto:

(Also mentions them thinking of nerfing the amount of automatic weapons in the game)

That's actually a bad sign. Every time they mentioned reducing the amount of automatics in the game we got even more with the next update. It has been ages since the devs did what they said. At this point it's just PR talk. I always have to laugh when someone mentions HLL and historical accuracy in the same sentence.

Could they possibly add any more automatics? I haven't played the new maps since I uninstalled long ago. Is everyone just running around with PPSHs now or what?

[blu3ray1]

Max is the most interesting man in the world, or fake and lame.

[Doppelganger]

The devs realize fully that if they did go with full historical accuracy the game just would not be fun. Any concessions they have made in regards to historical accuracy have been to make the game more balanced. And more fun.

[Rahl]

Well, hardly more fun for me at least.

[blu3ray1]

Originally posted by Dbl0Douche:

The devs realize fully that if they did go with full historical accuracy the game just would not be fun. Any concessions they have made in regards to historical accuracy have been to make the game more balanced. And more fun.

Is the game more fun and balanced now? No, just less historically accurate. Laziness

[Flump]

Can't believe Dan asked him why there was no free look

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by ZeroFuqsGiven:

Could they possibly add any more automatics? I haven't played the new maps since I uninstalled long ago. Is everyone just running around with PPSHs now or what?

The soviets have ironically enough the least amount of automatic weapons in the game.

And I have to say, the German Vs Soviet Matchup is by far more entertaining, than fighting the americans or playing as the americans.
Just because they have way less automatics and semi-automatics than the americans.
Them missing a shot where most of them run around with Bolt-action and you punishing them with a hit from a bolt-action feels much much better, than the guy just turning around and spraying his entire mag around, before you can even cycle the next round in.

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by Dbl0Douche:

The devs realize fully that if they did go with full historical accuracy the game just would not be fun. Any concessions they have made in regards to historical accuracy have been to make the game more balanced. And more fun.

It could be fun if the game supported better, more complex mechanics but it doesn't. There's no depth to the various gameplay elements. It starts with gunplay and ends with sector capture mechanics.

[StormhawkV]

Also, right now you won't get a good comparison about (semi-) automatic weapon usage as players haven't levelled their Soviet infantry classes yet. Give it a bit of time and the Mosin will be just as rare as the Kar98k.

[.TerO!]

I mean everyone knows that in a (for example) Wehrmacht Squad nearly every1 had a MP40, STG44 and a G43 /sarcasm off.

HLL as it got bigger forced to become a BF clone.

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Also, right now you won't get a good comparison about (semi-) automatic weapon usage as players haven't levelled their Soviet infantry classes yet. Give it a bit of time and the Mosin will be just as rare as the Kar98k.

The class loadouts aren't faction specific.
If your Rifleman is level 3.... he is level 3.
And yet I rarely see people with full auto-weapons on the soviet side. Might also be, because the maps where the Soviets are on, have a lot of wide open spaces, spaces where a SMG isn't really something you want to use.
Sure you can do what 99% of the american players do and just empty your entire clip into a general direction and hope to get your "skill" headshots trough it, but that isn't very effective with the russian SMGs.

[〘ｷ〙GrimⅩⅠⅠⅠGeis†]

Originally posted by .GreX!:

I mean everyone knows that in a (for example) Wehrmacht Squad nearly every1 had a MP40, STG44 and a G43 /sarcasm off.

HLL as it got bigger forced to become a BF clone.

Its not like there were whole platoons only equipped with such, same goes for the Soviets and the Allies. The point is that they need to introduce this specialised Squads as assault Units were basically everone gets a fullauto and on the other hand take away most of the fullautos on all the regular squads.