What Happened to "No Retreat" DLC?

[RoofKorea=BestKorea]

i wanted to get it for the NKVD uniform and yell at all the nublets with threats of summary execution. But it got removed from the store? Black Matter let me give you my money!

[Pfc. S.D.Plissken [10th MD]]

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

So we can have NKVD uniforms but we cant have SS uniforms? That's some double standards if i ever saw some.

Truthfully, and I don't understand why the wristband from the German uniforms was removed... Secondly if they remove the swazstika from the game because it offends some snowflakes are we to rewrite history and hide facts based on feelings? That isn't so important to me actually but what is , is how Hitler gets all this heat when he is but a second evil compared to Stalin but you never hear about how bad he was. It makes me laugh honestly.

[Pfc. S.D.Plissken [10th MD]]

Messaggio originale di zombelek:

i saw one dude wearing the Sailors uniform... like how tf he owns that

Probably an early kickstarter backer

[DeMo]

Messaggio originale di S.D. PLISSKEN:

Messaggio originale di zombelek:

i saw one dude wearing the Sailors uniform... like how tf he owns that

Probably an early kickstarter backer

You can buy sailor uniform, lethal tide DLC is available for $4.99

The german helmets with flecktarn covers were mostly issued to SS if I am not mistaken, the Summer and winter uniforms with the pancho bear camo used by the Wehrmacht, there is no SS style uniform in the game currently except for the Tank commander uniform with flek, that would be considered an SS pattern.

EDIT: correction not flektarn but peadot oakleaf and planetree, flek came after ww2 but was basically inspired by those.

[Marlowe-33]

Messaggio originale di Lord Rahl:

Messaggio originale di Stalinizator:

Well, maybe your standarts can tell us smth about several war crimes NKVD committed during WW2 in comparison to thousands of ones committed by SS, dear nazi fanboy?
At best we can blame NKVD for nazi committed Katyn (totally performed in nazi style) just because russian counter-revolutionary government thought recognition of nazi crime as a crime of NKVD would help their legitimacy. Though well, act if Katyn was committed by NKVD, your list, bitte.

He's referring to the Holodomor, also known as the Terror-Famine, or the Great Famine. Stalin starved an entire class of people to death, just for being landowners, they were the kulaks. Look it up, it's pretty horrifying stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Thanks for the link i've never heard of that before , interesting reading.

[Chris]

Messaggio originale di Nedly Dedly:

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

So we can have NKVD uniforms but we cant have SS uniforms? That's some double standards if i ever saw some.

Yeah, because they were totally on the same level. (sarcasm)

I want a SS uniform so bad.

[Dont be Silly Wrap your Willy]

Messaggio originale di Marlowe33:

Messaggio originale di Lord Rahl:

He's referring to the Holodomor, also known as the Terror-Famine, or the Great Famine. Stalin starved an entire class of people to death, just for being landowners, they were the kulaks. Look it up, it's pretty horrifying stuff.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Thanks for the link i've never heard of that before , interesting reading.

And that is why current histocial education sucks . Everyone knows about war crimes of nazi germany because they lost the war but noone is told or educated about soviet crimes , which at very least on the same level and of same amount , while in reality soviets eradicated way more people than nazies ever could.

But it's cool to hate on nazies while ignoring insurmountable amount of death and grief communism has caused and is still causing.

[Rahl]

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

Messaggio originale di Marlowe33:

Thanks for the link i've never heard of that before , interesting reading.

And that is why current histocial education sucks . Everyone knows about war crimes of nazi germany because they lost the war but noone is told or educated about soviet crimes , which at very least on the same level and of same amount , while in reality soviets eradicated way more people than nazies ever could.

But it's cool to hate on nazies while ignoring insurmountable amount of death and grief communism has caused and is still causing.

Well, it's depending on country. In Poland we learn about both German and Russian atrocity, Great Famine included. But this is probably both of them were our enemies and were close to us. Some others war crimes from others country are probably forgoten aswel but you are right. Soviet Union and Russian by some (or many) are viewed as a good guys simply becouse they won the war.

[RoofKorea=BestKorea]

Messaggio originale di DeMo:

oakleaf and planetree

oh nice, i wasnt aware that planetree and oakleaf were different camos. i hope they add both. peadot is probably the best looking and i seriously hate splinter so much. Theres tons of soviet camo patterns that can be added too. I want TTSMK and amoeba.

https://camopedia.org/index.php?title=USSR

Messaggio originale di Stalinizator:

::Angry Slav Noises::

My friend, This is not meant as an insult to your country or your people. Russians are rightfully a proud people who have contributed greatly to humanity. The NKVD killed millions of people in many of the exact same ways that the SS did. These crimes were not committed by regular russians, they were committed by the communist government which i consider to have been an occupation government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh_famine_of_1931%E2%80%931933
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_operations_of_the_NKVD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivization_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dekulakization

I strongly believe in constitutional democratic republics precisely because it is much more difficult to commit the kinds of repressions that the NKVD and SS committed.

[StraitArrow]

Messaggio originale di Stalinizator:

Messaggio originale di RoofKorea=BestKorea:

is this true? it was like $4.50 or something before it disappeared. TEAM 17 I WANT YOU TO TAKE MY MONEY. let me buy!


SS uniforms are already in the game. you gotta lvl your tank up to lvl 8 tho.

Well, maybe your standarts can tell us smth about several war crimes NKVD committed during WW2 in comparison to thousands of ones committed by SS, dear nazi fanboy?
At best we can blame NKVD for nazi committed Katyn (totally performed in nazi style) just because russian counter-revolutionary government thought recognition of nazi crime as a crime of NKVD would help their legitimacy. Though well, act if Katyn was committed by NKVD, your list, bitte.

DEATH to world communism and ALL communist filth

[Junior]

Ehh the "reason" why we don't really see any SS stuff (rank, insignia) is down to
stuff like that is banned in germany so either you would have to make different versions of the game so it could be sold to that region? or that nation(s)...

[Dont be Silly Wrap your Willy]

Messaggio originale di Junior:

Ehh the "reason" why we don't really see any SS stuff (rank, insignia) is down to
stuff like that is banned in germany so either you would have to make different versions of the game so it could be sold to that region? or that nation(s)...

Soviet symbols are banned in my country as well,yet HLL has them and game is sold over here so... doesnt seem to be the issue for them if they want my money.

[Junior]

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

Messaggio originale di Junior:

Ehh the "reason" why we don't really see any SS stuff (rank, insignia) is down to
stuff like that is banned in germany so either you would have to make different versions of the game so it could be sold to that region? or that nation(s)...

Soviet symbols are banned in my country as well,yet HLL has them and game is sold over here so... doesnt seem to be the issue for them if they want my money.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ comparing who is worst NKVD or Waffen SS is like comparing plague or cholera both things gonna kill you in a bad way...

As for rest well the winners write the history also why we see so many miss guided views (beliefs) about WWII

[Nedly Dedly]

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

Messaggio originale di Marlowe33:

Thanks for the link i've never heard of that before , interesting reading.

And that is why current histocial education sucks . Everyone knows about war crimes of nazi germany because they lost the war but noone is told or educated about soviet crimes , which at very least on the same level and of same amount , while in reality soviets eradicated way more people than nazies ever could.

But it's cool to hate on nazies while ignoring insurmountable amount of death and grief communism has caused and is still causing.

I don't remember Soviets wiping out villages, without showing mercy even to little children; punishing masses of innocent people for the actions of partisans; running absolutely inhumane concentration camps designed to genocide and torture people; carrying out genocide of people because of their ethnicity, race, whatever; or keeping the entire city surrounded for almost 3 years, perfectly knowing that people there are starving to death and losing their minds, because of the hunger.

[Rahl]

@Nedly Deddly

"Don't remember Soviets wiping out villages, without showing mercy even to little children" - It is known fact that Soviet don't show mercy, even to little children. There is those "phenona" of mass raping when even 8 years old girls was used by brave soviet soldiers. Not only Germans women and children but also Poles and women who was saved from death and concetration camps. Some victims were raped all day. Records about wiping out villages was mostly sealed but that kind of massacred happens. I known of one Polish village and German one that was attacked by soviet soldiers. And mass shooting civilian who were ruining away from Red Army.

"carrying out genocide of people because of their ethnicity, race, whatever" - Communism is based on war of classes and Great Famine is one of the most brutal class purges. Estimated death varied between 2,5 - 5 million people. Russian/Soviets make couple more purges, like Katyń when they murder Polish POV who was mostly Polish intelligence, officers, priests. When there was question about Polish POV Stalic cynically say that "they run away". They also, like Germans, hunt down Polish inteligence and land owner, killed them or exiled them to Syberia. Some sayed that up to 1,5 milion Poles were deported to Syberia and even 2/3 of them died there. It's even stated by some who lived in those days that (ironicly) Germans soldier were much more civil and when the liberation from German ocupation came from Russia people was running away from Red Army and trying to hide. It was that kind of liberation.

running absolutely inhumane concentration camps designed to genocide and torture people; Maybe not designed to genociade but there was Gulag system in Soviet Russia. Not excatly the best place to be either. Torture was also as common as in their German counterparts.

or keeping the entire city surrounded for almost 3 years, perfectly knowing that people there are starving to death and losing their minds, because of the hunger; Not evacuating civilian from Stalingrad becouse Stalin thought that soldiers would better fighing in "living and breathing city"? Their fault. Probably the same thought in not evacuating Leningrad.

Soviets ain't saints. Maybe Germans were worse but on the other hand they were enemy and they never hide their intention. With Russia, well, the things is all diffrent and even up to this day they failed to recognize their mistakes.

[Dont be Silly Wrap your Willy]

Messaggio originale di Nedly Dedly:

Messaggio originale di Dont be silly Wrap your willy:

And that is why current histocial education sucks . Everyone knows about war crimes of nazi germany because they lost the war but noone is told or educated about soviet crimes , which at very least on the same level and of same amount , while in reality soviets eradicated way more people than nazies ever could.

But it's cool to hate on nazies while ignoring insurmountable amount of death and grief communism has caused and is still causing.

I don't remember Soviets wiping out villages, without showing mercy even to little children; punishing masses of innocent people for the actions of partisans; running absolutely inhumane concentration camps designed to genocide and torture people; carrying out genocide of people because of their ethnicity, race, whatever; or keeping the entire city surrounded for almost 3 years, perfectly knowing that people there are starving to death and losing their minds, because of the hunger.

I do :) Because my country lived for many decades under occupation of Soviet Union. My grandparents purged because they were educated people and that was a big ' no ' in a soviet union .

It was ,and in some sense still is biggest empire of evil this planet ever seen.