Hey devs, why are you supporting bad nazi myths?

[huma474]

Why do the soviet forces not have morphine to resurrect their soldiers? What was the point of going with the "Mah human waves" concept for the soviets ? Seriously, that's some bad Nazi propaganda you're using for the soviet medic class. The soviets understood morphine as well as everyone else by 1942.

[huma474]

Originally posted by datCookie:

Sure, the Soviets here aren't equipped with the morphine as the Germans and the US are. But why come to the conclusion that it's "Nazi propaganda"? I admit it's odd they didn't give it to them, but to draw a conclusion as harsh as that is even more strange.

its a long running Nazi myth that the Soviets only won because of Human Wave attacks - they reference the concept in their own maps right now - The Kursk map errounously refers to "Deep Battle" concepts that were not present during that battle as part of the Offensive mode. These faulty markers are a clear indication of a lack of research into the Soviet side of the conflict and a desire to reach for the easy out on how to describe things. A lot of that easy out unfortunately happens to be Nazi content.

[huma474]

Originally posted by datCookie:

Originally posted by huma474:

its a long running Nazi myth that the Soviets only won because of Human Wave attacks - they reference the concept in their own maps right now - The Kursk map errounously refers to "Deep Battle" concepts that were not present during that battle as part of the Offensive mode. These faulty markers are a clear indication of a lack of research into the Soviet side of the conflict and a desire to reach for the easy out on how to describe things. A lot of that easy out unfortunately happens to be Nazi content.

But every nation currently relies on "spawn waves" for reinforcements. This isn't limited to only the Soviets. All they did was not give them a morphine injector to act as a revive tool for downed soldiers. From what I can tell, they gave them something.

Note that they don't have a historian on their team so it's highly unlikely that they've done much research on the matter. I'd say it's a far cry from them simply choosing to follow "Nazi propaganda", rather just a plain lack of knowledge.

The idea that they didn't spend even a single day researching the Battle of Kursk before naming things rings hollow. You don't need a historian on your team to recognize how foolish it is to make the soviet medics have no medicine to provide their fellow soldiers. The only way that the idea is ok that the soviet medic just "oooraaahs" his fellow soldiers back to health is if you are following very bad myths from WW2 and those Myths came from a very specific group.

[Valentine Michael Smith]

Originally posted by huma474:

its a long running Nazi myth that the Soviets only won because of Human Wave attacks - they reference the concept in their own maps right now - The Kursk map errounously refers to "Deep Battle" concepts that were not present during that battle as part of the Offensive mode. These faulty markers are a clear indication of a lack of research into the Soviet side of the conflict and a desire to reach for the easy out on how to describe things. A lot of that easy out unfortunately happens to be Nazi content.

The hell are you talking about. Kursk references defense in depth- which was the tactic successfully utilized to stop the german breakthrough tactic. The soviet front lines were 40 km deep and they had 6 defensive lines for a total of 300 km the germans would have to break through. Each time the germans thought they had successfully pushed through the soviet lines they encountered yet another line of defense behind it, which stalled and thwarted their advance. It has nothing to do with human waves.

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[Hackie P4ckie]

it's funny bro

[Summerdreams]

Originally posted by huma474:

Why do the soviet forces not have morphine to resurrect their soldiers? What was the point of going with the "Mah human waves" concept for the soviets ? Seriously, that's some bad ♥♥♥♥ propaganda you're using for the soviet medic class. The soviets understood morphine as well as everyone else by 1942.

Already thought of placeholders? Like panthers / tigers in stalingrad? But you do know the concept of "placeholders" in development i suppose?

I rather take a smile and make use of the "stalin"-meme like: "comrad, stalin told you to get back into the fight" ... Ofc i just thought to myself the very FIRST TIME ive seen this: "yep thats not finished i guess"

Besides that: what is this myth about StG44(!!)s in a 1943 scenario? Or the fact that tigers / panthers are the only used tanks by the germans in both stalingrad AND kursk?

So: just accept the possiblity that the missing morphine for soviets might be a placeholder...

[5 Solas]

Good evening folks, thank you for joining us for today's edition of "Everything I don't like is racist and a white-supremacy dog whistle."

[Cipher Esteria]

Originally posted by Summerdreams:

Besides that: what is this myth about StG44(!!)s in a 1943 scenario? Or the fact that tigers / panthers are the only used tanks by the germans in both stalingrad AND kursk?

So: just accept the possiblity that the missing morphine for soviets might be a placeholder...

You mean that the entire german army only used Panthers and Tigers.

I kinda like the Soviet Revive, it's like "This is just ONE bullethole, stand up you ♥♥♥♥♥ and get back into the fight!"
I personally would like it, if he just pulls a bottle of Vodka out instead of Morphine.

Speaking of, how does it come neither the Soviets nor Germans have Molotov Cocktails.

[Doomed]

Originally posted by Abide:

Good evening folks, thank you for joining us for today's edition of "Everything I don't like is racist and a white-supremacy dog whistle."

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[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by datCookie:

Sure, the Soviets here aren't equipped with the morphine as the Germans and the US are. But why come to the conclusion that it's "Nazi propaganda"? I admit it's odd they didn't give it to them, but to draw a conclusion as harsh as that is even more strange.

because he will complain about anything and everything regarding HLL. including making the devs nazis. when in reality the german faction is the most gimped losing faction in the game.

[Evul]

Another daily dose of woke outrage. It must be getting tough to find things to get upset about. I mean serioulsy, it's a friggin game. Get over it already.

[Dick Assman]

nice bait thread +1

[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by Evul:

Another daily dose of woke outrage. It must be getting tough to find things to get upset about. I mean serioulsy, it's a friggin game. Get over it already.

dude, within this whiner's forum "it's just a game" is frowned upon.

you have just caused 20 forehead veins to pop , in your crusade against "muh realizzzms".

you should shame yourself by contemplating what you did, and by eating cotton candy the rest of the day as punishment.

[Malker]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by Evul:

Another daily dose of woke outrage. It must be getting tough to find things to get upset about. I mean serioulsy, it's a friggin game. Get over it already.

dude, within this whiner's forum "it's just a game" is frowned upon.

you have just caused 20 forehead veins to pop , in your crusade against "muh realizzzms".

you should shame yourself by contemplating what you did, and by eating cotton candy the rest of the day as punishment.

man you are a broken record yourself. tiresome

[Malus]

Country Military Deaths Civilian and Military Deaths
Russia 10,700,000 24,000,000
Germany 5,533,000 8,800,000
China 4,000,000 20,000,000
Japan 2,120,000 3,100,000
United States 416,800 418,500
United Kingdom 383,600 450,700
Italy 301,400 457,000
Hungary 300,000 580,000
Romania 300,000 833,000
Austria 261,000 384,700
Poland 240,000 5,600,000
France 217,600 567,600
Finland 95,000 97,000
India 87,000 2,500,000
Philippines 57,000 1,000,000