Kar 98 isn't fun

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Anyone else like me hate playing Germans and being stuck with the bolt-action Kar 98? I find myself trying to get my hands on the G43 or STG or just switching teams. I know the game is meant to be "realistic" but I always feel outgunned by the M1 Garand no matter how well I play. I can drop 45 kills a game as US but barely scratch half that amount with the Kar 98 since I have to reload and try not to whiff shots.

Imaginably, this must be true for a lot of other players, no? Simply doesn't strike me as balanced.

[PSY48]

Nope, enjoy both teams and the load-outs given. No problem with the Kar and as I watch other YT vids, see plenty of action with the Kar. Guess you're all about your K/D, Rambo, so having to work harder or smarter "just isn't fun".

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Originally posted by PSY48:

Nope, enjoy both teams and the load-outs given. No problem with the Kar and as I watch other YT vids, see plenty of action with the Kar. Guess you're all about your K/D, Rambo, so having to work harder or smarter "just isn't fun".

I'm not all about kills, but you have to kill people to be effective. If I drop a node/supplies/garrison and then die within seconds I'm not being all that effective all things considered.

All I'm saying is if I was new to the game, I would 100% opt to play USA every time because it is easier and countless people I've had in my squad have confessed that sentiment too

If anything, I should be given an option. If you want to play with Kar 98 then good on you, but if I reach lvl 100 maybe they should let me unlock a different weapon like the G43 to play with a different class than Assault.

[Imperial Patriot]

Germans have the better tanks and the US has the better rifle. Sure, the US having the semi-auto Garand was a massive advantage compared to the the German counterpart... but that is part of the fun imo. If both teams were even in everything then there wouldn't be any weaknesses or advantages to one side. I don't mind the Germans being disadvantaged in that way because that's how it was irl. Real life wasn't balanced to parody and neither should this game if it's going for authenticity

[Cptn_Miller]

Originally posted by metric:

Anyone else like me hate playing Germans and being stuck with the bolt-action Kar 98? I find myself trying to get my hands on the G43 or STG or just switching teams. I know the game is meant to be "realistic" but I always feel outgunned by the M1 Garand no matter how well I play. I can drop 45 kills a game as US but barely scratch half that amount with the Kar 98 since I have to reload and try not to whiff shots.

Imaginably, this must be true for a lot of other players, no? Simply doesn't strike me as balanced.

Germans do not have better tanks, atm its 4 out of 6 games being dominated by jumbo / shermans.

This has been a major issue for a while... nothing new.. m1 garand / carbine dominate all, usa all semi / autos, ger mostly k98 - gg, new load outs for ger hopefully soon.

Needs to be some tweaks to the bullet drop system, some guns still feel like lazers..garand/carbine, while others seem to shoot soft balls.

[Pak0tac]

its not the devs foult that during ww2 germany used ww1 rifles
but look on the bright side, its a 1-shot 1-kill at all range rifle

[Uncle Bunkle Beard]

You're using it wrong :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-t_4YtoWM0

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Originally posted by Uncle Bunkle Beard:

You're using it wrong :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-t_4YtoWM0

lol

[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by Ambient:

its not the devs foult that during ww2 germany used ww1 rifles
but look on the bright side, its a 1-shot 1-kill at all range rifle

that is why they need to go eastern front soon.

since the soviets main weapon was the mosin nagant, so that would even out against the kar 98.

t34 vs panzer 4, IS-2 vs tiger.

the USA side, technically needs to be Nerfed. maybe with less available resources , etc.

to be honest, i understand the frustration with the kar 98 vs garand. i don't share this frustration, because the kar is to be used at range, and a good team DOES NOT let the americans get that close. you can pick them off, before they even see you.

i think we are going to see more even matches of germans vs soviets.


i remember the Rising Storm mod/game for Red Orchestra had to make up for Japanese weapon limitations through more numbers, banzai attacks, and other things the americans couldn't do. all in the name of balance.

other than that it would've been a slaughter , like it really was. The Allied Normandy invasion of Fortress Europe, was virtually unchecked, all the Germans did was delay their defeat. but they were outmatched in that entire front other than some specific situations, i.e. normandy beach, initial battle of the bulge.

that's not to say that the germans did not bloody the American's noses a few times. but the Americans were never really in danger of losing the war on that front.

[softwarebot]

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

Originally posted by Ambient:

its not the devs foult that during ww2 germany used ww1 rifles
but look on the bright side, its a 1-shot 1-kill at all range rifle

that is why they need to go eastern front soon.

since the soviets main weapon was the mosin nagant, so that would even out against the kar 98.

t34 vs panzer 4, IS-2 vs tiger.

the USA side, technically needs to be Nerfed. maybe with less available resources , etc.

to be honest, i understand the frustration with the kar 98 vs garand. i don't share this frustration, because the kar is to be used at range, and a good team DOES NOT let the americans get that close. you can pick them off, before they even see you.

i think we are going to see more even matches of germans vs soviets.


i remember the Rising Storm mod/game for Red Orchestra had to make up for Japanese weapon limitations through more numbers, banzai attacks, and other things the americans couldn't do. all in the name of balance.

other than that it would've been a slaughter , like it really was. The Allied Normandy invasion of Fortress Europe, was virtually unchecked, all the Germans did was delay their defeat. but they were outmatched in that entire front other than some specific situations, i.e. normandy beach, initial battle of the bulge.

that's not to say that the germans did not bloody the American's noses a few times. but the Americans were never really in danger of losing the war on that front.

How about stop adding content and start fixing the game

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Originally posted by 78. SID softwarebot:

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

that is why they need to go eastern front soon.

since the soviets main weapon was the mosin nagant, so that would even out against the kar 98.

t34 vs panzer 4, IS-2 vs tiger.

the USA side, technically needs to be Nerfed. maybe with less available resources , etc.

to be honest, i understand the frustration with the kar 98 vs garand. i don't share this frustration, because the kar is to be used at range, and a good team DOES NOT let the americans get that close. you can pick them off, before they even see you.

i think we are going to see more even matches of germans vs soviets.


i remember the Rising Storm mod/game for Red Orchestra had to make up for Japanese weapon limitations through more numbers, banzai attacks, and other things the americans couldn't do. all in the name of balance.

other than that it would've been a slaughter , like it really was. The Allied Normandy invasion of Fortress Europe, was virtually unchecked, all the Germans did was delay their defeat. but they were outmatched in that entire front other than some specific situations, i.e. normandy beach, initial battle of the bulge.

that's not to say that the germans did not bloody the American's noses a few times. but the Americans were never really in danger of losing the war on that front.

How about stop adding content and start fixing the game

I really love this game as is. For me, it just needs tweaks. In regards to weapons, I don't think weapon upgrades are really all that bad especially if you unlock it at like Lvl 10 for a certain class. G43 were usually given to veterans anyway who knew how to wield it's abilities

[HonCho]

Most of my time spent in game has been on the American side. Here lately ive been playing more and more with the kar98 and i have to say i find myself joining more and more on the Germans side just so i can play the kar. Dont like the stg...bounces to much. I love to hear that ting...but watch out dont miss that first shot cause you might not get another lol.

[Heliz]

it sucks in close combat, but the sight is much better and 1 shot = 1 kill

I also feel like the stg 44 and the mg42 are superior to their american counterpart

[pipi long stocking]

Originally posted by 78. SID softwarebot:

Originally posted by pipi long stocking:

that is why they need to go eastern front soon.

since the soviets main weapon was the mosin nagant, so that would even out against the kar 98.

t34 vs panzer 4, IS-2 vs tiger.

the USA side, technically needs to be Nerfed. maybe with less available resources , etc.

to be honest, i understand the frustration with the kar 98 vs garand. i don't share this frustration, because the kar is to be used at range, and a good team DOES NOT let the americans get that close. you can pick them off, before they even see you.

i think we are going to see more even matches of germans vs soviets.


i remember the Rising Storm mod/game for Red Orchestra had to make up for Japanese weapon limitations through more numbers, banzai attacks, and other things the americans couldn't do. all in the name of balance.

other than that it would've been a slaughter , like it really was. The Allied Normandy invasion of Fortress Europe, was virtually unchecked, all the Germans did was delay their defeat. but they were outmatched in that entire front other than some specific situations, i.e. normandy beach, initial battle of the bulge.

that's not to say that the germans did not bloody the American's noses a few times. but the Americans were never really in danger of losing the war on that front.

How about stop adding content and start fixing the game

adding content is part of their plan, no stopping it.

and they are trying to fix the game. Jonno himself said that the next few updates feature more optimzation and addressing long standing issues.

as i said, i like the game as is, but i do feel why a pew pew pew player would feel frustrated losing a close quarters firefight with someone that has a garand, m1.

[Stryker]

Originally posted by Roy Burns:

Kar98 is the best gun in the game.

Nah bruv. The M1 Carbine is the undisputed King in this game. I can pop heads just as good with the Carbine from long distances as the K98. It's the perfect gun for almost every situation. It works in CQ, medium and long range. It does everything. Hip fires nicely in CQ as well. Semi-automatic, I can get every bullet down range and drop heads and bodies.

[King0FTheDead725]

Well hopefully with the new animations in U7 the recoil on the Garand will be adjusted and feel more natural, rn I haven't noticed much recoil on any American gun which isn't accurate especially for the Garand and Thompson, the M1 Carbine is a smaller caliber so I understand the lack of recoil on that but imo the carbine should be a two shot instead of a one shot to show that its a smaller caliber, its currently better than the Garand and most people prefer to use it. But honestly the Kar98 is a deadly weapon when you learn how to use it.