M1 Garand Iron Sights

[eddie]

Is it only me or Garand Iron Sights are "too big" ? Its annoying - because when I want to aim for example on moving target, or target far away - that circle Iron Sights cover my view too much IMO, and after that its hard to find the target quickly and it causes slowlier aim - because target "is hiding" behind Iron Sights... :D

Pitty I cant choose rifle and play lets say for example with Lee-Enfield, that would be simple solution... Or just make that Iron Circle Sight smaller pls...
Germans got their powerful Kar98 bolt action rifle... It would be nice to add to Allies powerful bolt action rifle too - and it should be Lee-Enfield... And for Eastern front where fought Germans against Russians - Mosin-Nagant...

[LuckyStrikes]

Eastern front with Soviet forces is planned for post release. British will come if the game is popular enough. Still, we won't be getting the respective rifles until the then and they will still be locked to the national army on the field.

The Garand sight is quite accurate, it just doesn't translate well into the game. Which is fine enough, since the Kar 98 sights are way more effective in game and it helps to balance the fire rates.

[Ebo]

Originally posted by eddie:

Is it only me or Garand Iron Sights are "too big" ? Its annoying - because when I want to aim for example on moving target, or target far away - that circle Iron Sights cover my view too much IMO, and after that its hard to find the target quickly and it causes slowlier aim - because target "is hiding" behind Iron Sights... :D

Pitty I cant choose rifle and play lets say for example with Lee-Enfield, that would be simple solution... Or just make that Iron Circle Sight smaller pls...
Germans got their powerful Kar98 bolt action rifle... It would be nice to add to Allies powerful bolt action rifle too - and it should be Lee-Enfield... And for Eastern front where fought Germans against Russians - Mosin-Nagant...

The garand iron sights are decently realistic even though i agree with you. The ADS really needs to cover your FOV because you woulnd thave a good FOV irl and if you're ADSing then you should have a taget your aiming at (weather it be a possible enemy bulging out of a hedge row, or scanning a ridge). If anything the Garrand needs to be nerfed maby in magnification of iron sights or increased recoil. It has the same 1 shot potential the K98 has but with a faster Rate of Fire, More accurate to iron sight, and holds 1 more round.

Also the Enfield is British with an even worse ADS view and 5 round bolt action. would acutally be more balanced than the Garand.

Imo, which should be considered a grain of salt but a general agreement, The K98 needs a fire rate Buff, the garand needs either a damage nerf or zoom ADS nerf ( id much prefer a - 25% zoom nerf to a damage nerf especially if a 1v1 duel is going on). A commander level smoke arttillary coupled with a SMG buff and LMG Bipod fix would balance alot of situations.

Also i totally agree with soviet content eventually, i cant wait for the battle of Stalingrad, Kursk, Moscow, liberation of Leningrad, Battle of Berlin. the content is almost endless and as a ww2 hobiest the eastern front is the bulk of my ww2 game excitement. 8/11 of all german casualties happened in the eastern front... but only after the germans inflicted 16-20 milliom russian casualties. That's where the real drama is at, they even took Berlin by the time we showed up.

This game IMO has mastered the importance of large scale communication to win, the developers nailed it. now i want to see how communication works in a purely urban environment I.E. Battle of Stalingrad. The most costly battle in recorded history.

with that essay posted, the Garand is a better K98, minus the ADS FOV.

[Case]

Like most games, they don't get peep sights quite right since they don't work in games like they do in real life. Which is annoying, but if you dare change it you get weirdos throwing fits ala Rising Storm 2's M16.

[GuyIdiot]

those weirdos don't understand or have never shot guns then

[BanzaiKitty]

Originally posted by Nebiros:

Like most games, they don't get peep sights quite right since they don't work in games like they do in real life. Which is annoying, but if you dare change it you get weirdos throwing fits ala Rising Storm 2's M16.

I hope they change the sights to be like those, I always hate how all american and british weapons sights in WW2 games look wrong.

[^èa†èr^]

i have one right here by me that my grandfather sent home. sights are big hard gun to hunt with. have to be pro sniper...

[MysticDaedra]

So... I'm the only one who feels there isn't enough FOV in the Garand iron sights? Given the pixely nature of combatants at range (devs really need to take another look at their antialiasing), larger FOV through the circle part of the sight would be really nice.

[^èa†èr^]

90 fov wold be good in this game

[bennydigitall]

Big fan of the M1, but I agree the ring is too fat. It needs to be thinned down a bit, can't see ♥♥♥♥♥.

[eddie]

Originally posted by bennydigitall:

Big fan of the M1, but I agree the ring is too fat. It needs to be thinned down a bit, can't see ♥♥♥♥♥.

Yea, exactly..
I mean..
I know M1 Garand has this kind of Iron Sights for real....

BUT
When you shoot IRL with this Sights, you dont have "monitor vision" (tunnel vision), I mean, you dont see only in 19´ 22´ or 24´ or 27´ rectangle..!
You just see fully whats in front of you and to the sides with peripheral vision.. On monitor you see only a little bit of whats in front of you, little bit, and theres totally no peripheral vision included of course...If somebody of you played airsoft or paintball or shot some weapon you should know what I mean... IRL you just dont have to aim "through monitor" vision...

So, when you aim with this Sights IRL, its much easier, because you can see "around" them (of course you have to aim with both eyes open to do that properly, if you aim with one eye closed, you ll see ♥♥♥♥♥ too, but still not that big ♥♥♥♥♥ like in game).
Because of that I written this post...
Theres not good ratio between Iron Sights of Garand and our monitors...Ring is too fat... That ring fill up too much of our monitor space (so of our whole vision)... Bad ratio...

[✠Rumcajs✠]

Originally posted by eddie:

Originally posted by bennydigitall:

Big fan of the M1, but I agree the ring is too fat. It needs to be thinned down a bit, can't see ♥♥♥♥♥.

Yea, exactly..
I mean..
I know M1 Garand has this kind of Iron Sights for real....

BUT
When you shoot IRL with this Sights, you dont have "monitor vision" (tunnel vision), I mean, you dont see only in 19´ 22´ or 24´ or 27´ rectangle..!
You just see fully whats in front of you and to the sides with peripheral vision.. On monitor you see only a little bit of whats in front of you, little bit, and theres totally no peripheral vision included of course...If somebody of you played airsoft or paintball or shot some weapon you should know what I mean... IRL you just dont have to aim "through monitor" vision...

So, when you aim with this Sights IRL, its much easier, because you can see "around" them (of course you have to aim with both eyes open to do that properly, if you aim with one eye closed, you ll see ♥♥♥♥♥ too, but still not that big ♥♥♥♥♥ like in game).
Because of that I written this post...
Theres not good ratio between Iron Sights of Garand and our monitors...Ring is too fat... That ring fill up too much of our monitor space (so of our whole vision)... Bad ratio...

Fully agree
but I've got another idea.
As I have already mentioned in different topic, instead of making circle thinner, just make the textures of that circle diaphanous while close aiming and let players see a little bit through it.

[mobucks]

My dad's M1 had the same sights as in the game. Except it was further away when aiming and hence quite a bit smaller. To look down it like in the game you'd have to have your eye a LOT closer to it.

[Porter Rockwell]

Of course, you're 100% right. I set up a discussion about it myself, but it doesn't make any sense here. Most Hell let loose players are probably battlefield fans so there's no reason to expect a negative response and it's underneath them that the game is being played. I've always appreciated realism in this game, I was surprised by the first gameplay but everything in my opinion goes the wrong way, sad but I understand the devs.

[Geronimo426]

Originally posted by Edward Heffron:

Of course, you're 100% right. I set up a discussion about it myself, but it doesn't make any sense here. Most Hell let loose players are probably battlefield fans so there's no reason to expect a negative response and it's underneath them that the game is being played. I've always appreciated realism in this game, I was surprised by the first gameplay but everything in my opinion goes the wrong way, sad but I understand the devs.

Why is it you change your avatar and name everyday when you post on these M1 site threads??? Trying to create an illusion more agree with you??

[HappyLittleCloud]

The front post is like 1/10th the size of the peep.

If you think that is what the rifle looks like while aiming you need to see an optometrist and turn in your drivers license.