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smokedope420 Oct 21, 2019 @ 10:00pm
Wehrmacht camo's
Anyway to get SS or other terrain camos in this game?
Originally posted by Mikhail Reign:
Originally posted by Mikhail Reign:
I think a key point here is that the SS camo doesnt look 'inherently SS'. Its just a camo pattern (when everyone else was mostly using solid colors)

Originally posted by Azrael:
So imho just add the SS-Uniforms without the SS-Runes and no one bats an eye.

See thats what I meant - what is being discussed here isn't 'black suit and jackboots' (actually combat SS didn't wear black - its was being phased out by war start - default colour was a grey. The black uniform was more a rear echelon/wants to look mean at dinner parties kinda deal. The uniform worn by the Wehr tank troops very much resembled the black SS uniform though - buti digress)

Anyway - what is being suggested is the SS camo smock - which doesn't have any markings at all on it. Its just a poncho worn over regular combat clothes with a camo pattern on it.

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smokedope420 Oct 21, 2019 @ 10:43pm 
Ah okay would be cool to see some of that since they have in my opinion the best looking camo, maybe they will add some new factions
stuka444 Oct 22, 2019 @ 12:25am 
There were waffen SS units (combat SS units) that existed so while it would be technically possible for the devs to add battles with SS units, idk if they'd want to deal with the political shenanigans of adding SS anything into this game tbh
Chick-Magnet Oct 22, 2019 @ 1:22am 
I dont think such a thing is worthy of any controversy, its a historical shooter; plenty of these games have SS in them. The game is also pretty under the radar as well.
Mikhail Reign Oct 22, 2019 @ 1:55am 
I think a key point here is that the SS camo doesnt look 'inherently SS'. Its just a camo pattern (when everyone else was mostly using solid colors)
NicGamz Oct 22, 2019 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Mikhail Reign:
I think a key point here is that the SS camo doesnt look 'inherently SS'. Its just a camo pattern (when everyone else was mostly using solid colors)

Just add the Camo- uniforms and DONT have the " SS " on them.
Everybody happy.
Stryker Oct 22, 2019 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by Mikhail Reign:
I think a key point here is that the SS camo doesnt look 'inherently SS'. Its just a camo pattern (when everyone else was mostly using solid colors)

The thing is, the camo patterns were specifically designed for the Waffen SS by Johan Georg Otto Schick. So the patterns are inherently going to tie to the SS if worn in this game. The SS were actually mocked for the patterns at first, until everyone started to copy it.

Not trying to drum up sympathy or boast about the SS either, I'm just saying, anyone with a bit of knowledge of WW2 is going to immediately think "SS" if they add camouflaged patterns that resemble the smocks the Waffen SS wore.

The Splittertarnmuster and the Erbsentarn patterns definitely scream SS.

10 or 15 years ago, noone cared. It was a video game. It was historical. Nowadays, in today's outrage culture, it's tough being a video game developer and having to decide whether or not to add this kind of stuff, because it may hurt someone's feelings. Look at what Mordhau is going through.

NicGamz Oct 22, 2019 @ 5:55am 
Medal of Honor had the camo skin for the germans... even in multiplayer.
And that is a EA game.
Last edited by NicGamz; Oct 22, 2019 @ 5:55am
Stryker Oct 22, 2019 @ 6:00am 
Originally posted by datCookie:
Originally posted by Stryker:

The thing is, the camo patterns were specifically designed for the Waffen SS by Johan Georg Otto Schick. So the patterns are inherently going to tie to the SS if worn in this game. The SS were actually mocked for the patterns at first, until everyone started to copy it.

Not trying to drum up sympathy or boast about the SS either, I'm just saying, anyone with a bit of knowledge of WW2 is going to immediately think "SS" if they add camouflaged patterns that resemble the smocks the Waffen SS wore.

The Splittertarnmuster and the Erbsentarn patterns definitely scream SS.

10 or 15 years ago, noone cared. It was a video game. It was historical. Nowadays, in today's outrage culture, it's tough being a video game developer and having to decide whether or not to add this kind of stuff, because it may hurt someone's feelings. Look at what Mordhau is going through.

What's going on with Mordhau exactly? I had a quick look but couldn't find anything on their discussion boards about people having their feelings hurt by something.

They are facing a lot of flack for a few things. Awhile back it was not being able to play a female character or change your character's skin color to anything but white. Now it's about adding chat filters. Mordhau has been through the grinder these past few years over subjects like this.
Stryker Oct 22, 2019 @ 6:02am 
Originally posted by StyrmanKarlsson:
Medal of Honor had the camo skin for the germans... even in multiplayer.
And that is a EA game.

Like I said, that was what, 10-20 years ago? Yeah, noone cared. There wasn't this huge outrage culture over stuff like this.
Chick-Magnet Oct 22, 2019 @ 7:57am 
Pretty sure i can remember Call of duty ww2 having this..as well as BFV, and then Day of Infamy could let you choose an ss unit to play as.
Stryker Oct 22, 2019 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by Roy Mustang:
Pretty sure i can remember Call of duty ww2 having this..as well as BFV, and then Day of Infamy could let you choose an ss unit to play as.

Call of Duty WW2 did NOT have SS units whatsoever. Only in the campaign. The units you could choose from like "Valkyrie" in the resistance update weren't even close to historically accurate. They had German units with a mix match of all kinds of weird outfits that made no sense. Oh, and you could be a black female German.

BFV was the same thing pretty much.

Day of Infamy was forced to change the SS divisions to "Panzer Divisions" and censored many of the patches. But there was SS camouflage used for sure.

Most developers are going to stay away from the SS stuff, just saying.
NicGamz Oct 22, 2019 @ 12:07pm 
Unbelievable how SJW do their best to destory history in everything, not only games.
Everthing!
History is history.
Azrael Oct 22, 2019 @ 12:25pm 
If they don't put the SS-Runes on the Uniforms, it should be no problem to add them, the Game still could be sold in e.g. Germany and Austria.

However, if they put SS-Runes on them, it could be tricky. Some lawyers and people with some knowledge argue, that games could be considered as culture products and then you could add them even in Germany.
Some do not see it this way.

So adding SS-Runes onto SS-Uniforms could be a touch too much and would be playing Roulette.

But imho, they don't really add that much, afterall, we're playing a game to shoot people, not to remake accurate to detail SS Uniforms.

So imho just add the SS-Uniforms without the SS-Runes and no one bats an eye.
Gorgonite Oct 22, 2019 @ 2:07pm 
I would prefer if they add a combat SS unit to a certain map where everyone on the German team is wearing this camo. Likewise, make everyone wear winter uniforms on Foy. Honestly I really don't like the customization system but it won't stop me from enjoying the game.
NicGamz Oct 22, 2019 @ 2:25pm 
Originally posted by Retrova:
I would prefer if they add a combat SS unit to a certain map where everyone on the German team is wearing this camo. Likewise, make everyone wear winter uniforms on Foy. Honestly I really don't like the customization system but it won't stop me from enjoying the game.

Epic to storm the Omaha Beach in U.S Winter Uniform :steamhappy:
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