optimised fully working baggage solution.

[mouflon]

So after much palying around and testing a few baggage system i am convinced this is the only way to successfully do 3 cargo areas...if you need that many.

What i found is that you need to separate all the lines so if you are starting out start with one system and then work on the second and third independantly.

The reason for this is that the baggage does not sort to go to the various cargo bays even with a tilt tray. So i have opted for this until a sortation tray is introduced. Has anyone else manage to do anything better?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1159028797

[GeeBee]

Was about to add a third baggage bay tonight and was assuming I could use the tilt tray like I do for my existing two baggage bays. Will let you know if I run into the same issues you found

[AngerIsAnEnergy]

why do you think a tilt tray cannot be used to "sort" by the way?

Works perfectly fine. Can manage many bays using "To Direction". Can load balance with other modes - left/right/forward.

I don't understand you waiting for a "sortation (not a word)" tray. It's already there.

You are not very efficiently scanning - you should be scanning specifics items before the manual scan - you are giving the human operator too much to do. You could combine all the 3 belts (after specific) scanning to a single manual scanner before using a single destruction machine. You have 3 of each - and NO specific scanners - fail.

This is not optimised - but it looks pretty.

It does have an advantage if failure could occur in baggage bay (don't think they break down just yet though). as you have 3 multiple seperated belt systems, one could fail and the other two could continue. But, until you can re-assign baggage bays dynamically, a breakdown would be a hard breakdown for that entire belt system so, even your other belt systems couldn't be used to share the load of the broken belt system. That would be nice.

[mouflon]

To answer a few questions:

1. a sortation tray is an RL item

https://www.beumergroup.com/en/products/airport-baggage-handling-systems/high-capacity-sortation-systems/ls-4000e-tilt-tray-baggage-sortation

I design airports for a living so don't expect everyone to know this term. Also found that the tilt tray (which could be a sorter also) does not sort to the right cargo bay. I found the bags backing up as was not sorting correctly so a ramp agent had to go get the bag manually.

Also in a baggage area you don't have specific scanners - you have 3 levels of scanning.
You have level 1 which is generic and high speed scanning and you can have 2 which is alarmed and more accurate imagery you can tilt and turn to look at objects level 3 is where the manual check is done if i recall correctly but this sometimes is without a scanner depends on the country.

I would love to see a video of a sortation that works with 3 cargo bays as this would mean i can get rid of alot of wasted units as you suggest but when i orginally did this it did not work. I will go through my saved files and post here a screen shot to show you.

Btw when i ramp up the flights you should see how smooth it goes currently though :)

[Face]

tilt trays work fine for sorting for me. had an early setup where i had one scanning setup that did all incomeing and outgoing baggage, sorted it to/from 2 baggage bays and 2 baggage claim areas. sorted and routed everything just fine.

your setup is far from "optimised". THe red blue and yellow machines as you colored them, are the tier 2 I assume you are reffering to, do not scan for all 5 items. there are 5 different machines you need to build to scan for specific threats.

I did a bunch of testing on these machines trying to figure out what machines give false paoitives vs false negatives. I wanted to make sure no contraband got through while making sure that no innocent bags are being destroyed.

Partial results tell me that specific scanners miss stuff, basic scanners miss nothing, but give false positives, and advanced scanners dont seem to miss anything nor do they give false positives. SO unless advanced scanner is slower then the basic scanner(which i would hope it is, needs more testing), then all you really currently need is an adv scanner and dont bother with the rest. if anything you could first run through a basic scanner then the rejected bags through a adv scanner. Adv scanners also continue to work whether they are manned or not, so if your security guard goes on break the machine doesn't slow down or seem to miss anything. Once i found out that specific scanners can miss stuff, and give false positives, i had to reroute their "ok" output through an adv scanner still. so why bother with them at all?

Back to the tilt trays, i built more baggage areas each handle less stands as much as possible. when you get a super high flow of people and traffic, the sorters tend to lag and become a choke point. until they are optimized a bit better, I'm going ot try not to use them going forward.

[mouflon]

so i think the specific scanners are glitched as tried a few in series and the photo of the type doesn't change it just shows explosives. So i tried to do wha you said and went ahead and then took them to another belt and rescanned. its not working as previously suspcious bags now pass.

so verdict.

it is working on a basis of correction and its not a good test as all bags are suspious until scanned. The purpose of manual is to verify.

its not working as only explosive check is acheivable.

I knew when i posted this with the word optimised it might flag some healthy debating...

i like to think of it as optimised in the current setup as it can handle a full weeks flight schedule without falling over. It does not clog and beleive me i have tried.

it is also optimised if we beleive that the setup takes account that the full 5 type scans is not working currently and its a bug and that sortation does not work as it would in RL.

i am going to further experiment and try 3 different setups.
1. one sortation and just to show it doesn't work for me maybe someone can then tell me why
2. one sortation with baggage scanning to the full.
3. run simulation as it is and post video to show it works in an optimised manner.

let me know your thoughts.

[Face]

for specific scanners, the icon of the machine you are about to place always looks like an explosive, however it actually builds the correct machine.

Sortation works fine. make sure you are not selecting left/rigt, or forward/right, forward/left. just leave it on "To Destination". I just don't like them as they bog down under heavy loads in larger airports, and mess with throughput.