AMID EVIL

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Hexen Or Heretic?
Oviously our favorite game has been designed with at first these two in mind!
The Heretic was still quite Doom-like but Hexen had beside the greater monsters
also the way more natural environments what drastically improved
the ancient fantasy scenario.
I personally always liked Hexen much more for these reasons
and hope some day it will see a implementation in Doom Legacy
the only proper splitscreen sourceport (Doom1+2+Plutonia+TnT+
Heretic+FreeDoom) and even allows easily adding coop or versus bots.

Last edited by 76561197987928933; Sep 24, 2018 @ 6:37am
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MANGOlm CZ Sep 24, 2018 @ 6:52am 
I always liked Hexen mon thats for sure. But I didnt liked how hard was to orientate in some of the levels and how the levels are oriented on a huge backpadling. Heretic on other hand was much more straightforward and focused on action but never liked the visualitation that much as in Hexen.
Kaiser Ducky Sep 24, 2018 @ 7:19am 
I gotta say, I like the idea of Hexen... but it's not as good as Heretic. It's too easy to get lost in Hexen. Flip a switch; backtrack between all the maps in your current hub, and try to figure out what the hell it did. Find out that it revealed a little switch that was on a wall, then figure out what that switch does. It opens a door, where you have to search for sacred... switches, then figure out what those switches do.

But, there is a mod that gives you Heretic with better resolution sprites. Not sure if it works with Hexen though, can't even remember which mod it was now q: I'll have to dig through my files.
MANGOlm CZ Sep 24, 2018 @ 7:23am 
yeah I love how you can combine mods intended for Doom with Hexen/Heretic. Especially weapon mods are amazing and it works flawlessly
Leon  [developer] Sep 24, 2018 @ 5:18pm 
Amid evil wasn't actually designed with heretic/hexen in mind.
We wanted to make a fantasy action FPS; heretic and hexen are just the easiest to compare it to.
I would say though soul mode is inspired by the tome of power from the series.
There's also inspiration from quake, doom, unreal, gods, amulets and armor, rise of the triad etc...

I do like both heretic and hexen 1/2 a lot though, fun games. I also like shadowcaster, which is a relatively unknown raven game with a similar art style to heretic.
76561197987928933 Sep 26, 2018 @ 2:53am 
Is interesting - Raven back in the days sorta had to admit
their wrongish fantasy world design and actually start over again
with Hexen which indeed was the sequel and had the ancient ruins first.
AndrewSFTSN Oct 10, 2018 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Leon:
Amid evil wasn't actually designed with heretic/hexen in mind.
We wanted to make a fantasy action FPS; heretic and hexen are just the easiest to compare it to.
I would say though soul mode is inspired by the tome of power from the series.
There's also inspiration from quake, doom, unreal, gods, amulets and armor, rise of the triad etc...

I do like both heretic and hexen 1/2 a lot though, fun games. I also like shadowcaster, which is a relatively unknown raven game with a similar art style to heretic.

Shadowcaster! That takes me back. I used to love the strange/bleak atmospheres in that game, especially the starting gardens level. Rock-man form trumps everything though.

It's definitely clear to me from playing AE for a few hours that it's really its own thing apart from Hexen and Heretic, the bright colours and trippy atmosphere give it a weird feeling that reminds me of Moebius/Planescape/The 5th Element/Unreal and many other things...
Technoir Oct 15, 2018 @ 4:13am 
I actually played hexen and heretic recently (relatively) and was surprised at my reaction. Knowing that heretic was so derivitve from doom I expected to like it less than hexen. True enough, the more unique setup of hexen felt great at the start. As the game went on though, it lost a lot of steam for me because of the limited weapon selection, respawning enemies, and more irritating level design (for my tastes). I appreciate both, but I prefer other classics over them (the most relevant in my mind is that I prefer doom to heretic).


On another note, amid evil actually feels more like unreal to me for some reason (thematic elements aside).
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76561197987928933 Oct 16, 2018 @ 12:07pm 
Hear ye hear ye - luxurious graphics at first sight maybe.
Btw. - why do you hide your profile veicht?
Technoir Oct 18, 2018 @ 8:07pm 
I can't remember the initial reason I chose to set it that way, but its easy to leave it that way so I do.
Ɗᴿ҃Dee Oct 19, 2018 @ 12:18pm 
its a great game the graphics full of life
^1Romanov77 Oct 21, 2018 @ 2:39am 
You guys are really talented, hope your third game will be really a 100% Heretic/hexen dark-macabre fantasy game

(HINTHINT NECROMANCER FPS HINTHINT)
Last edited by ^1Romanov77; Oct 21, 2018 @ 2:39am
Magmarock Jan 29, 2021 @ 8:46pm 
Originally posted by Leon:
Amid evil wasn't actually designed with heretic/hexen in mind.
We wanted to make a fantasy action FPS; heretic and hexen are just the easiest to compare it to.
I would say though soul mode is inspired by the tome of power from the series.
There's also inspiration from quake, doom, unreal, gods, amulets and armor, rise of the triad etc...

I do like both heretic and hexen 1/2 a lot though, fun games. I also like shadowcaster, which is a relatively unknown raven game with a similar art style to heretic.

I know this is old but I gotta say that the comparisons do bug me. Amid Evil is a great game and you should be proud, but it has more in common with Painkiller than it does Heretic/Hexen. Not a bad thing, just not a Hexen thing.
Obrigador Feb 3, 2021 @ 6:39am 
It reminds me more Quake 1 then Hexen 2... I don't why but I have only this kind of vibes
Magmarock Feb 4, 2021 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by durachka:
It reminds me more Quake 1 then Hexen 2... I don't why but I have only this kind of vibes

Doom 2 vibe for me.
76561197987928933 Feb 5, 2021 @ 12:36am 
Heretic yes -
Hexen no (not yet) ...
:MushroomWarrior::BuckeKnight::MyPig:
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