So I finally tried the gun...

[Rae]

And its alright for the trash mobs in the first proper ruins when I was farming mats. However, when I got home I got the a threatening message from Lee telling me to not use the gun because thats how the world was once destroyed, blah blah blah, and how my reputation with the church will be damaged? Just how much will it take a dive?

And for another thing. I took it into the ruins for a *reason*. So that I wouldn't worry people and yet they found out about it LOL. Was I being spied on? All I can imagine is Lee's minister senses tingling and him going into the ruins and poking his head around the corner while I was happily shooting the damn fish in the ruins and squinting quite unhappily with me.

[XBL Laberbacke]

It's a one time thing

[Rae]

Whoo! Thank goodness for that LOL. Thank you!

[Tarti-Fleet]

Yea guns are fun, i always have my red devil on me. So usefull for pulling mobs !
Just loosed some relationship points with nora and lee when used it 1st time.

[Dead Tired Poss]

Can easily make up for the relationship loss by donating to the church. Just offering 2k gives you half of what you lost.

[Tarti-Fleet]

Sure yes not so difficult to raise back relationship with them, when doing some commissions for them , it work well too.

[Lucius]

Yet another reason to not give Lee a chance to redeem himself as a likable character: anti-gun politics. Sigh.

[Radiosity]

A single bunch of roses to Nora restores the rep, and two bunches to Lee will do the same. It's not a big issue :)

Also, it's not anti-gun politics, Orius, it's anti-old-world technology. Which is understandable, when you realise that the world was destroyed as a result of that stuff.

I wouldn't bet on him becoming more likeable either ;p I like most of the townsfolk a lot, but Lee and Tody are way down the bottom.

[Dreadstone]

I wouldn't bet on him becoming more likeable either ;p I like most of the townsfolk a lot, but Lee and Tody are way down the bottom

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Lee is a hypocrite. He prosletyzes (sp) from inside a church where technology made the building. He sells items that are put together - by technology. He is defended, and his life made better, wait for it - by technology.

Look, you want to be a Luddite? Go sit in a cave. But don't lecture me while wearing clothes made from a sewing machine, asking me for things that I need a machine to build, and oh, yeah, doing other thing(s), that potentially could hurt people.

Tody makes a very strong anti-environmentalist case. Look, I get your point, but you went about it entirely the wrong way.

Both should be locked up.

You are welcome to your views. But not when you endanger other people's lives.

[alfaerin]

Uhh, so you think burning down a building in protest is bad but locking people up for their beliefs is okay?

Lee isn't a hypocrite; you've completely misunderstood his position. If you actually talk to him, he will tell you quite plainly that he supports technology that makes life better, and the church is happy to sell peaceful technology to people. What he opposes is dangerous technology, and he has good reasons for it. At one point, he tells you about his great-grandmother who told him stories about what life was like before Peach made the world inhabitable again. Everyone lived underground in the cold and the dark, constantly hungry. People who made it to 30 were considered old. He believes that if humans recover the technologies that destroyed the world once, they will do it again. That's why he believes such information should be destroyed before it gets into the wrong hands, and those wrong hands definitely exist.

[Dreadstone]

Lee doesn't get to make that decision for everyone.

[alfaerin]

Um, what? Did you confuse him for the mayor or something? Lee has no power to make any kind of decision and never tries to. All he does is try to persuade people.

[aXFallenXa]

i think what he means is that lee as a whole shouldnt be the one deciding if the tech is bad

[Ihateeverybody]

But Lee isn't the one deciding. He is one side of the Argument, Merlin is the other. Mayor is the Decider....to a lesser degree you the Builder are. You decide what parts of the story get advanced and how.

[Sarcosmic]

Just saying: you can actually avoid the relationship drop with Lee and Nora by simply not opening the letter. It's not even that steep of a drop (like ~30 RP with Lee and ~20 RP with Nora, iirc), but it's technically completely avoidable, haha.

[alfaerin]

Originally posted by aXFallenXa:

i think what he means is that lee as a whole shouldnt be the one deciding if the tech is bad

I'm a bit confused what you mean by this. Are you saying that he's not allowed to have an opinion? Or not allowed to speak about it?