Nova Sword vs Corp Hammer, whats your pick and why?

[MythN7]

Title says it all.
I am having a hard time liking the nova sword because it seems to crit WAY! less than the hammer, and also the hammer seems to be fully a large radius AOE.

Also, the hammer seems to stun quite often, espically on bosses.
They both have same damage value, but the sword just doesnt seem to kill as fast.

I would think the sword should be much better considering its a boss prize much later in game than you get the hammer just given to you via the story.

[AsianGirlLover]

Nova Sword > Corps Hammer due to one simple thing: dex builds are better than strength builds, lol.

Sure, you may notice the sword crits less often but you also aren't stuck in long wind-up animations while trying to swing the hammer like an idiot.

I'll take speed and agility over a slow weapon that leaves you wide open any day

[MythN7]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Nova Sword > Corps Hammer due to one simple thing: dex builds are better than strength builds, lol.

Sure, you may notice the sword crits less often but you also aren't stuck in long wind-up animations while trying to swing the hammer like an idiot.

I'll take speed and agility over a slow weapon that leaves you wide open any day

you can cancel the hammers swing by right click rolling.

Also, unless its a bug, the sword hits for 70-100 non crit. and barely 150 when it does crit.
The hammer for me is hitting 130-190 non crits, and 240-300+ crits.

It takes the same amount of stamina and seems to have damage numbers scroll on screen just as fast a rate as the sword.

[AsianGirlLover]

Exactly - it depends on your play style. Take it slow with the hammer or go speedy with the sword. Both do great damage but the sword gets the job done faster.

[MythN7]

Originally posted by Lapyxs:

Hi, MythN7.

I use both the sword and the hammer (although not the Corp's Hammer, but the War Hammer [Attack +280]).

I like the sword more, imo it's nicer (how it looks) and faster. The thing is I found the War Hammer to be less sp consuming, that’s why I use the hammer in the dungeons (specially the higher floors 3-4). It takes a little longer to complete the floor, but it saves a lot of sp.

The Nova Sword I use to “hunt” the mobs outside the dungeons, where time is a factor.

im comparing the 2 caues they both are the same 200 attack.

And i havent unlocked the other one yet in this play.

[MythN7]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Nova Sword > Corps Hammer due to one simple thing: dex builds are better than strength builds, lol.

Sure, you may notice the sword crits less often but you also aren't stuck in long wind-up animations while trying to swing the hammer like an idiot.

I'll take speed and agility over a slow weapon that leaves you wide open any day

what do you mean by dex and str builds?
theres no stats in this game like that

[poppetshadow]

For Boss battles, I prefer the Lion's Claws (can't remember the stats) because they seem to slow down the attack and I take less damage and have more time to dodge roll.

[MythN7]

what i dont get is how they both show 200 attack, but yet the hammer does more damage non crit than the sword does cirt.

[Madn3ss]

I think damage number is supposed to be DPS ( damage per second ). Hammer deals more damage but builds up slower.

[AsianGirlLover]

Somebody should make a YouTube video doing the math and reporting their findings.

Again, just from my experience I always go with the nova sword as, while it may hit for less like you claim, it does more damage per second and allows me to run through enemies/dungeons/etc. considerably faster than if I had just waited for my character to slowly swing that damn hammer

[MythN7]

Originally posted by AsianGirlLover:

Somebody should make a YouTube video doing the math and reporting their findings.

Again, just from my experience I always go with the nova sword as, while it may hit for less like you claim, it does more damage per second and allows me to run through enemies/dungeons/etc. considerably faster than if I had just waited for my character to slowly swing that damn hammer

hmm, i feel the opposite.
ya the initial wind up is a bit slower, but after that, if your spaming the button, it seems to kill faster.

I want to love the sword, as the animations and just look is better, but i just seem to clear floors way way faster with the hammer.

and from a stamina point, they take the same amount.
So going back to the sewer, killing in 1 hit is huge.

ill record a few dungion runs using each to show.

[Nomnom Victory]

Originally posted by MythN7:

hmm, i feel the opposite.
ya the initial wind up is a bit slower, but after that, if your spaming the button, it seems to kill faster.

I want to love the sword, as the animations and just look is better, but i just seem to clear floors way way faster with the hammer.

Perhaps early on the hammer may have some utility, but once your attack stat is high enough attack speed is all that matters.
Lategame it's no contest, Nova sword Is way better.

[MythN7]

Originally posted by Nomnom Victory:

Originally posted by MythN7:

hmm, i feel the opposite.
ya the initial wind up is a bit slower, but after that, if your spaming the button, it seems to kill faster.

I want to love the sword, as the animations and just look is better, but i just seem to clear floors way way faster with the hammer.

Perhaps early on the hammer may have some utility, but once your attack stat is high enough attack speed is all that matters.
Lategame it's no contest, Nova sword Is way better.

define late game?
Im level 40

[MythN7]

Just recorded 2 back to back runs on the same dungion in 1 video with nothing changing but the weapon.

Will upload to youtube.
Just to to recap the results here while its uploading.

Hammer ran dungeon about 15 sec faster. but the sword had many many swings that went threw the mob but dident register as hits for some reason, easily chewed up more than 15 sec.

Could be just cause of the 1 run, more would have to be done for testing, but I seemed to take way more hits with with sword, my guess is cause the hammer prob stuns more.

I dident pay attention to stamina useage, can easily be compared after watching the vid.

[worstcase11]

Yeah the hammer is too slow - even the improved hammer one can find later makes no difference - it is too slow.
I like using the shotgun for hazardous ruins 1 though - spares me a lot of climbing through poison water.
And the (lion fist?) gloves are best for the HR1 bosses. They are KO after only a bunch of hits.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1436668120

[MythN7]

Originally posted by worstcase11:

yeah the hammer is too slow - even the improved hammer one can find later makes no difference - it is too slow.
I like using the shotgun for hazardous ruins 1 though and the (lion fist?) gloves for the HR1 bosses. They are KO after only a bunch of hits.

unless its my play style, you will see after this 1 gig video uploads that the hammer is not slow.