Fish breeding

[nilsson_anders]

Is it just me or is there no simple way to look at the fishes in you own aquarium like there is ib the fishtank in the museum?

Being able to get a menu that shows how many fishes of what type are in each tank and to pick which one you take out would be helpful.

[Sabishi1985]

Nope, there's no such menu for your own aquarium. :-/

[Vibin' Liz (Go touch grass.)]

I've found fish breeding to be... annoying. You don't know whether the fish have been fed or not or how long it would take to breed said fish. There's really no tutorial for fish keeping ingame from what I remember, there is a guide but it hasn't been updated much in regards to detailed info for each fish and their requirements for breeding.

[KarmicRequiem]

I bred the Emperor Bubble Fish ... in the big tank ... took about a week or so .... and as for being fed well there's an icon that appears at the top of the tank .... telling you the fish are hungry LOL ...

[worstcase11]

Well fishing changed around a lot and it is mostly trial and error with the breeding.
Generally the first fish you take out of the tank is the fish that was put into the tank last or was born in the tank last. Just imagine them stacked in a staple and you remove them from the top.

I haven't even caught all the king fish yet but I am trying my best breeding them and finding out their diet, so I can update the guide.

It is not very helpful, that the ingame calendar removes entries of past days, so I have trouble keeping track how long exactly fish need to breed.

(And it is by far easier to go fishing than breeding them unfortunately.)

[KarmicRequiem]

Yeah :( ...

[Vibin' Liz (Go touch grass.)]

Originally posted by worstcase11:

Well fishing changed around a lot and it is mostly trial and error with the breeding.
Generally the first fish you take out of the tank is the fish that was put into the tank last or was born in the tank last. Just imagine them stacked in a staple and you remove them from the top.

(And it is by far easier to go fishing than breeding them unfortunately.)

I understand that part with the staple, I'm just saying it's kind of annoying the way fish breeding is. I don't know if I've fed the fish enough for them to pump out a baby or not. Just fishing for them is easier but I feel like the devs just placed this mechanic in here without much thought. Or I'm just overthinking this and I've been too spoiled with other games and their feedback of things similar to said fish breeding.

[worstcase11]

I would already be happy, if the fishtank was a little more see through. The glass is so opaque that I can barely see anything inside.

[MudCraw1er]

I had bad luck with multiple pairs in large tank, so I put 2 Kings in small tanks placed in bedroom. 1 bug egg per fish when you get up. Take out 3rd fish before feeding. I think it is one new fish per week, but I may be wrong since I'm running 5 tanks and its hard to track.

[KarmicRequiem]

I was using the bigger tank ... but i want to get the crystal tanks from the trading station ... those are really nice looking.

[Soren]

Just thought I'd shed some light on breeding since it seems to be an unclear subject...

It is a pain to do with the first basic fish tank since it only fits five fish so you can really only breed one fish at a time per tank.

On the first day of year two you get the diagram from Presley in the mail for the large fish tank. It fits 15. Thing is, you need 4 sapphires to make one.

The tempering liquid for the strengthened glass isn't an issue because you can commision the civil corps to collect them. The bottleneck is the sapphires. Crystal trees give you some, and mining does too. You only need six tanks. So 24 sapphires total. It would take some time. If you can at least get the breeding started, it'd save time. Once you get enough, you're set for life.

However, if you have access to buyable crystal fish tanks in the late game, definitely go that route!

I have 60 king fish. I keep 12 fish in five separate crystal tanks. On the morning of the 9th day, they produce 30 fish. Worth 150,000-195,000 if selling between 100-130% market price. They take 3 dough each every day, 180 total. When the market is down I buy dough from Sophie for 5 gol each, they need 1440 dough for 8 days so that's 7200 gol total for upkeep.

So 142,800-187,800 profit on the morning of the 9th day just for throwing some dough in a few tanks.

To get to that point if you start breeding with four king fish.

8 days for 6 fish
16 days for 9 fish
24 days for 13 fish
32 days for 19 fish
40 days for 28 fish
48 days for 42 fish
56 days for 63 fish

So in two months you can get enough for 142,800-187,800 per 8 days. Without access to crystal fish tanks, you'd have to spread the fish out more across six large fish tanks instead of five crystal ones, 10 per tank, breeding five fish per tank at a time. I like it because of how passive it is. Can be troublesome to get going depending on where you are in the game, but definitely viable under the right circumstances.

[RAD-82]

I just gave myself a crash course on fish breeding. I came to a similar conclusion as Nesdude. 1 Bug Egg is equivalent to 3 Dough, which is enough to feed a single fish for 1 day. New fish are born after 8 days, so if you start on Monday, you'll have a new fish on the Tuesday of next week, then another on Wednesday of the following week.

It seems fish might have an infinite stomach? You can put 2 fish in a tank and then give them a lot food at once. When a tank goes over the fish limit, you can't add food until you remove fish, but if you already fed them a bunch before going over, then the old fish keep breeding while the new fish remain hungry. It might be hard to see through the glass, but the small fish display holds 10 fish. I started with 2 Goliath Kings and 2 Wiser Fish in this tank.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1696035661

[worstcase11]

@Rad-82:
That seems to have changed significantly - in earlier versions there was only space for 5 fish in the small tank.
And not all fish originally needed Bugeggs.
Not to mention that 'overfeeding' was not possible.

[Rian]

I have a large tank and I now have enough fish that I'm having trouble counting them to see how much food I need to give them. Uh oh.

[RAD-82]

Originally posted by worstcase11:

@Rad-82:
That seems to have changed significantly - in earlier versions there was only space for 5 fish in the small tank.
And not all fish originally needed Bugeggs.
Not to mention that 'overfeeding' was not possible.

You can still only put 5 fish in the small tank, 15 in the large tank, and 20 in the crystal tank. All the tanks have room for 5 more fish from breeding, but the small tank can only reach that capacity by overfeeding since it would otherwise be stuck at 2 extra. Luckily, if you breed more fish than there is room, since the large tank can do 7 pairs and the crystal has 10 pairs, the extra fish that couldn't spawn will appear the next day after you make room. I don't know if they can appear sooner than the next day; I wasn't going to wait around to see.

Edit: Based on the wiki, which I just checked for fish breeding, the testing I did only applied to kings. The lesser quality fish have different requirements. I know I've checked the wiki in the past and I couldn't find this info before.

[KarmicRequiem]

If you want to breed emperor fish you need to put two of the same in so they give emperor offspring .. i saw the math somewhere that someone posted ..... i tried it with emperor bubblefish and it worked .. i got the same out of them LOL