Does Higgins cheat ?

[coldcoffee]

I noticed that Higgins was catching up on me even when all commisions were around 99-100 rewards so I checked and he took a 100 point commission yesterday as I had taken the only water engine and the rest were 99 or 100 commissions and he had 2287 points on the board, today he has 2457, is there some sort of bonus points you can get or is he outright cheating ? ;)

[Fifty Three]

I can't say. I'm always several thousand points ahead of him (end of year 3 I was over 9000 points ahead).

Are you at the Commerce Guild at 8 sharp and the first one to the Commission Board?
Are you picking the commissions that yield the most points?
Are you turning in commissions every day? (Avoid commissions that ask for materials/parts that would take you more than a couple of days to acquire.)

Doing these things you will always be ahead and unsure if Higgins is cheating or not.

[coldcoffee]

I'm ahead and I was first at the end of my first year, I'm over a 1000 points ahead half way through spring year 2 but I was looking at the points he was getting for commisions and he seems to get about 50% more for each commision than he should.

If you take commisions to gain relationship points with people then on a like for like basis you will get behind if you take a 100 commision and so does Higgins it seems so your hand is forced to some extent to make sure you arrive before Higgins which means possibly neglecting your gathering in the first hour of the day to be there as you only have about 25 minutes to check your stuff isn't out of fuel so basically your first hour of the day is slightly wasted and you don't get those back ;)

[Fifty Three]

I'm always there before Higgins. Never care about fuel because it's full the night before. Run there, use horse, whatever you can to be there before Higgins. Turn in something everyday. Farm resources ahead of time. Always know what commissions might show up on the board and have those materials available!

[coldcoffee]

Yep I get that and I do all that but this game is about the ticking clock and getting every last second being productive but Higgins forces you to be on his timetable and waste time every morning rather than going to the commision area when you are already heading that way saving precious minutes everyday.

Think of it this way if you waste 30 minutes running to Higgins timetable every day then that's 10 hours per season and 40 hours every year you are wasting which is a fair amount when you add it all up in a game forcing you to use every second wisely as that's another minute gone in game time ;)

[Fifty Three]

Ok, well I don't know what to tell you then other than I'm thousands of points ahead of him every year. Is he cheating? Not to me. Good Luck.

[brau5e]

He is probabbly cheating - but essential the player is too!
Since we get extra comissions from quests we can earn extra points.
So it is only fair when Higgins has other sources for points too.

[coldcoffee]

brau5e님이 먼저 게시:

He is probabbly cheating - but essential the player is too!
Since we get extra comissions from quests we can earn extra points.
So it is only fair when Higgins has other sources for points too.

Yep I fully understand if he is cheating, as you say we can do story missions and museum stuff for extra points, but that is later in the game, early on it would be nice to know if he does a 400 point commision for example will he get 400 points or 600 as that can make or break you early if you are only doing 99-100 point commisions to try and build relationships.

If he gets 2 or 3 big points missions in a month in your first season you could really struggle to get that back and you need those extra gols and bonus items from 1st place to help build up your base area.

Anyway a nod from someone in the know ( glances in the direction of a dev :D ) would clear things up for us and we'd be a bit wiser as to what we need can and can't get away with when it comes to choosing commisions. :)

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Yeah he's definitely cheating.

No way he could accomplish all the comission he takes daily with only a couple industrial furnaces. I sometimes struggle to finish some before 6pm with 3 of every machines, and level max assembly station, level max workshop, and 8 industrial furnaces.

And that's without taking into account the gathering of ressources... never seen him lumbering, hunting or anything else...

He's probably using cheat engine.

[Jessica]

He does cheat yes. I've tracked the commissions he takes and his reputation for a week and he always gets much more points than the commission he's taking that day... but the player (me) gets the exact amount of points shown on the commission (aparts from the extra points you get by befriending antoine)

He is also definately a time lord with a tardis because there is no way!!! that he's making any of the things he's taking in his tiny home with just two furnaces

[Damoncord]

He's gaining an increased amount of points every day, and you KNOW he can't be making all that stuff with just 2 furnaces that are only running copper and bronze.

[Snowmech]

Befriend Presley, he gives extra points on commissions.

[CaptainDouchePants]

During year 1, I thought the game cheats in my favor, because I ignored commissions for almost the first month (except story ones) and hadn't gotten into rithm of doing one a day untill Autumn, adn still somehow ended up first at the end of the year. Maybe Higgins steps up his game in year 2 or 3, though, I guess I'll find out...

[Fifty Three]

His REP points seem to be set to a certain amount regardless of what the commission he takes is worth. For example, his score was 9312, he took a Water Engine which was 410. So, the next day he should have had 9722, however the next day he only had 9456. 144. So this will work both ways if he takes a commission of a lower value, he'll still get 144 points.

So, he's not cheating, his score system is just broken. And logically speaking no he shouldn't be able to craft those commissions with the size of workshop he has.

Edit: Confirmed in year 4 he’s getting 143-144 points daily.

[coldcoffee]

Fifty Three님이 먼저 게시:

His REP points seem to bet set to a certain amount regardless of what the commission he takes is worth. For example, his score was 9312, he took a Water Engine which was 410. So, the next day he should have had 9722, however the next day he only had 9456. 144. So this will work both ways if he takes a commission of a lower value, he'll still get 144 points.

So, he's not cheating, his score system is just broken. And logically speaking no he shouldn't be able to craft those commissions with the size of workshop he has.

Edit: Confirmed in year 4 he’s getting 143-144 points daily.

If that's the case then he is there purely as an annoyance to the player and grabbing the best commisions if you don't play the game and beat him to the board and hope he doesn't grab the best one before you spot it and click on it.

Personally I can think of better ways of doing it than grabbing a high points commision from the player if he only gets 143-144 no matter what, seems a waste of a high point commision to me if he does grab it first, I don't always grab the high ones it depends what they are for and what I have in stock and can make fast enough.

[Fifty Three]

coldcoffee님이 먼저 게시:

Fifty Three님이 먼저 게시:

His REP points seem to bet set to a certain amount regardless of what the commission he takes is worth. For example, his score was 9312, he took a Water Engine which was 410. So, the next day he should have had 9722, however the next day he only had 9456. 144. So this will work both ways if he takes a commission of a lower value, he'll still get 144 points.

So, he's not cheating, his score system is just broken. And logically speaking no he shouldn't be able to craft those commissions with the size of workshop he has.

Edit: Confirmed in year 4 he’s getting 143-144 points daily.

If that's the case then he is there purely as an annoyance to the player and grabbing the best commisions if you don't play the game and beat him to the board and hope he doesn't grab the best one before you spot it and click on it.

Personally I can think of better ways of doing it than grabbing a high points commision from the player if he only gets 143-144 no matter what, seems a waste of a high point commision to me if he does grab it first, I don't always grab the high ones it depends what they are for and what I have in stock and can make fast enough.

Going back to my first point, that's why you have to be there at 8 am sharp. That 1st hour of whatever can be forgotten. Be there at 8 to grab the best commission and you never have to worry.

This also means the other builders are the same way. They are set to a certain point system so they can never score higher than you or Higgins.

In truth the Rep system needs to be reworked.