Are there any Carnivore species who can co-habit peacefully?

[Tilarta]

I’ve been wondering if there are any Carnivores who can form cross-species social groups?
Where they won’t attack other species that is.

Dilophosaurus and Troodon seem like the most probable match I want to investigate.


I did notice something curious when I introduced a Baryonyx to a Carnotaurus pen, she started fighting with one of them and won. Given that she’s got a smaller body mass, it was intriguing to see the larger dinosaur flee from the fight.
And another Carnotaurus was watching without intervening, I could just see the thought processes, my friend is getting beaten down by a smaller dinosaur, I don’t want to get into this fight at all!

[Meewec]

bigger dinos can live with the smaller ones usually but you gotta separate the food sources and have a larger water supply or place it between the food or the little ones will keep getting freaked out.. i think all the raptor based ones are ornery and pretty much will try to kill anything unless it's too big.

[rmcin329]

Ceratosaurus and Proceratosaurus get along without any problems.

[Torque]

I dunno but i'm still getting over seeing my baby get eat

[FIVE-one]

I have a game with a pen keeping one t rex and a few raptors. I took my last game where I saved it a few months ago. Now, since the new updates, my t rex keeps killing my raptors. Do you have the same issue ?

[Tilarta]

So there will never be true cross-species carnivore mutualism?
At best, they're only tolerating each other?

Wondering if Compies can be introduced into a herbivore habitat now, they're so small, I can't see them seriously attacking even the most diminutive herbivore.

I honestly gave up on Raptors, because they keep breaking out of their enclosures no matter how well I fortify them.
I never keep them in my unless a main mission requests their presence and as soon as the goal is achieved, I sell the Raptor to remove them from the park.
Always assuming they haven't been killed first by another species in the enclosure with them.
That actually happened, they didn't respect the Troodons they were sharing with and well, venomous bites plus being outnumbered reduced the raptors from a pack of three down to one.

[NeoSilver]

Made the early mistake of putting a cerato in with my rex, attempting to make space. I've seen playthroughs, no idea why I thought this would be a good idea??? Anyways, I had thought they were too different in size to fight and stuck them together. Y'all know how it ended.

[Harry Nurpplez]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

I honestly gave up on Raptors, because they keep breaking out of their enclosures no matter how well I fortify them.
I never keep them in my unless a main mission requests their presence and as soon as the goal is achieved, I sell the Raptor to remove them from the park.
Always assuming they haven't been killed first by another species in the enclosure with them.
That actually happened, they didn't respect the Troodons they were sharing with and well, venomous bites plus being outnumbered reduced the raptors from a pack of three down to one.

No wonder you're having issues cause you're doing it wrong. You don't put same size carnivores together. On the second island I have a pair of ceratos together with a full 6 pack of raptors. The only deaths have been natural ones. As soon as the approaching storm message pops up immediately open the shelters then grab the ACU heli and tranq the raptors. No more breakouts.

Originally posted by S1LV3R:

Made the early mistake of putting a cerato in with my rex, attempting to make space. I've seen playthroughs, no idea why I thought this would be a good idea??? Anyways, I had thought they were too different in size to fight and stuck them together. Y'all know how it ended.

Yeah a medium herbies category is a thing but for some reason not for the carnies.

[Lofty]

Ok, hope this helps:

Compys can live with ANY herbivore, medium or large carnivore, however ALL small carnivores will prey on them.

Most of the small carnivores can live with any medium / large carnivore too except for indominous rex that will not tolerate ANYTHING ELSE other than raptors but raptors can no longer be put with a T-Rex (T-Rex likes litterally EVERY other small dino though). They can also live with any large herbivore OR any armored herbivore (so stuff like ankys).

Most large dinos can be put in a paddock with a secondary one of its own kind (so 2 barry's 2 suchi's 2 gigans etcetc), Ceratasaurus can have 3 of its own kind, indomrex, indoraptor and Rex can only have 1 and NO large or medium carnivore will tolerate another large or medium carnivore. Like small carnos, large can also be paddocked with ANY long neck (except nigersaurus), I THINK medium can be housed with armored herbis too, but large cannot be as they are big enough to attack the armored ones....but damn if it isn't amazing watching an anky mace the face london of a T-Rex XD I mean she goes DOWWWWN!

Some nice combinations I go for are T-Rex with a full social group of deinons or procerats, ANY 2 large carnivore with a group herrasus, 2 spinos with a social group of dilos, a FULL PADDOCK of long necks with 2 carnos roaming around with them < This one is great for paleo stuff, putting 2 rexes with special genes in them will make the park veeeery happy, 2 special indo rexes with special genes and a group of raptors.

[Tilarta]

I had been considering putting some Compies in with Dilphosaurus, but based on what you said, that would probably end up badly for the Compies.
What do Compies feed from? I can't see them hunting down a live bait feeder, so they probably use the meat feeder. I've never put them into a park yet, so have no idea as to what they require.

In one of my parks, I've got three Ceratosaurus with two Baryonyx, there's often a fight, but oddly, they back off without either getting killed, I guess they're smart enough to know a fight to the death isn't worth anything.

I don't think I want an Indominus Rex in any of my parks, that's just asking for trouble.
But I am curious if there's a sauropod strong enough to fight an I.Rex off, probably the Dreadnaughtosaurus.

I haven't yet put a Anklyosaurus in with any large carnivores, but I suspect given that it's known this is a dinosaur who would smash a T.Rex around in real life, they'd never really be concerned with threat from any predator. Too much armor and a blunt force thagomizer to go with it.

[Lofty]

Yup, dilos love munchin' on compys XD Raptors have a great little anim though where they chase them and throw them over their backs, is quite funny to watch.

VERY surprised that barry combo hasn't devolved into bloodshed by now :S will have to try that myself, however done fear the indom it's quite good to please the guests with, enjoyable to watch blend in with the trees too.

[LadyDragonfury]

General rule is large carnivores cannot be put with other large carnivores because they will fight with each other, but apart from a few you can put two of the same together with the base genome (note: Allo DOES NOT get on with other Allos).

Same for small carnivotes, don't put them in a pen with other small carnivores, they will fight.

Compies seem to have their own category and are preyed upon by the small carnivores but totally ignored by everything else, including the Indoraptor.

Indominus Rex can be put with any small carnivore but not with ANY Sauropods, it will kill them.

Indoraptor cannot be put with anything other than Sauropods (except Nigersaurus), it will attack everything.

T. Rex can be put with small carnivores with the exception of raptors, as it will kill the raptors.

All medium/large carnivores can be put with all Sauropods (except Indom) and Nigersaurus (as that Sauropod is small enough to get killed)

All small carnivores can be put with all Sauropods and armoured herbivores (such as Ankys, Stegos and Trikes). Note that Iguanodon cannot as it will fight with both small and medium carnivores.

Raptors are not as bad as they're being made out to be, an Electrified Heavy Steel Fence and a pen bigger than their bare minimum means mine rarely get out even during upsetting heavy storms. Just bare in mind they have an incredibly short fuse-and so does the Indom.

[Siamese55]

I remember seeing a chart someone put together, but the general rules are: 1) small and large carnivores are fine together; 2) do not mix carnivores of the same size that are different species; 3) sauropods are fine with anything but the Indo Rex; 4) the herbivores all coexist pretty well; 5) all carnivores are fine with anything too big for them to kill (AKA sauropods for large carnivores or large herbivores for small carnivores).

I have seen a bunch of things mentioned here, but I never had a problem with having raptors and rexes together. I barely had a problem with sauropods and an Indo Rex. Still, I have not heard of any specific species programmed to break the rules.

[Tilarta]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1981407698

I studied the Baryonyx and Ceratosaurus while making this video, I think I have an idea why they cohabit relatively easily, it's because of their similarity in behavior/mentality.

When they were annoyed with each other, they'd simply stand at a short distance and roar without actually fighting.
They'd do this with their own species and the other species.
I even saw a Ceratosaurus roar at a Bayonyx to warn the dinosaur simply to move out of the way.

And the majority of these fights is simply them roaring at each other.
So I guess it's simply a case of shouting at each other rather then literally fighting.


Also, I saw a Baryonyx hunt down a goat and consume the kill, that was unexpected.
I thought they liked fish.

[LadyDragonfury]

Originally posted by Siamese55:

I remember seeing a chart someone put together, but the general rules are: 1) small and large carnivores are fine together; 2) do not mix carnivores of the same size that are different species; 3) sauropods are fine with anything but the Indo Rex; 4) the herbivores all coexist pretty well; 5) all carnivores are fine with anything too big for them to kill (AKA sauropods for large carnivores or large herbivores for small carnivores).

I have seen a bunch of things mentioned here, but I never had a problem with having raptors and rexes together. I barely had a problem with sauropods and an Indo Rex. Still, I have not heard of any specific species programmed to break the rules.

T. Rex started being able to kill raptors after their last patch.

[LadyDragonfury]

Originally posted by Tilarta:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1981407698

I studied the Baryonyx and Ceratosaurus while making this video, I think I have an idea why they cohabit relatively easily, it's because of their similarity in behavior/mentality.

When they were annoyed with each other, they'd simply stand at a short distance and roar without actually fighting.
They'd do this with their own species and the other species.
I even saw a Ceratosaurus roar at a Bayonyx to warn the dinosaur simply to move out of the way.

And the majority of these fights is simply them roaring at each other.
So I guess it's simply a case of shouting at each other rather then literally fighting.


Also, I saw a Baryonyx hunt down a goat and consume the kill, that was unexpected.
I thought they liked fish.

Huh, interesting.

As for the Baryonyx, that one started off eating only meat and goats, as did Spino and Sucho. It was a later patch that added the fish feeders and wetland requirements.