Man this last boss is terrible

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How'd this guy make it out of HQ? His windmill grab attack is absurd, if i'm below 90% HP it'll kill me (all MK. X gear) and not getting hit by it is a dice roll due to all of his moves having comical rounding. I wish he was fun, Armor, Harold, and Helena at least managed that.

[Jin]

Not sure how much health you have but alot people just use heavy armor to face tank him, he doesn't really do that much damage unless you are on NG++?

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Originally posted by Invoky:

Not sure how much health you have but alot people just use heavy armor to face tank him, he doesn't really do that much damage unless you are on NG++?

Yeah, I should've updated. I was using Jaguar MK X. Switched to Cerberus MK X and... beat him first try. What an insane difference.

[Panicc]

this boss is in my opinion the worst boss in the game if we excluse the tutorial bosses. He only has 1 phase and why the hell does he have this angel armor straight up from a fantasy rpg? He could have a more "cyber" looking angel form but this? seemed really "lazy". For an enemy who not only used the "spark" but also absorbed the nanites from that giant snake, he was pretty pathetic.

[strangerism]

yeah its design is straight out of dark souls world, but at the end of the day it also fits the story because all Eli wanted is to transcend to some sort of messiah.
I agree it could have been done better.

[Vanryth]

i think its fine. he isn't even part of the real main story or threat of it at all. he was just a maniac looking for power.

[Gantradies]

i think it kinda fits- he's explicitly shown to be unstable/delusional to the point of being a manchild with a god complex- the "form" he takes in dreamspace is basically a manifestation of this- a superficial, clean finish over a warped, ugly core- no matter how hard he tried or how strong his delusions become, Eli's -real- core self will allways stain whatever facade he puts up...

[Tamaster]

Cerberus armor really is a walking fortress. As was in surge 1. Military grade after all, makes sense to me.

[GrimWisp]

honestly i really liked his moveset and design but his attacks were definitely on the weak side if you had medium/heavy armor. I didn't even use Cerberus armor i just used the Angel VI set. they should have had us fight Eli in his human form first with a new moveset and then have it transition to the angel phase.

[Tiniturtle]

Originally posted by GrimWisp:

honestly i really liked his moveset and design but his attacks were definitely on the weak side if you had medium/heavy armor. I didn't even use Cerberus armor i just used the Angel VI set. they should have had us fight Eli in his human form first with a new moveset and then have it transition to the angel phase.

well u already fight him 2 time in human form lol and he die 2 time already he dont want to make another mistake so he just roll in with archangel armor
still i dont like both angel set they all cripple throughour default outfit make thing look wierd plus full set bonus is useless
arch angel 3 piece bonus is nice btw very good for first half of new game + when most enemy still get element effect make it 3 piece bonus combine with 3 piece bonus that give u 20 electric damage and holding a nano weapon
then u can stun everything to death with both elec and nano effect
still end game is just ceberus faceroll with physic damage build

[GrimWisp]

fair enough, they could have done something where his first phase is Archangel and then a second phase where he's the Dark Prophet.

[Tiniturtle]

Originally posted by GrimWisp:

fair enough, they could have done something where his first phase is Archangel and then a second phase where he's the Dark Prophet.

well his human form is dark prophet btw that why u get dark armor when cut off his limb

[Tiniturtle]

still with ceberus armor + 2 nano resis implant he is just a joke

[GrimWisp]

oh i know, but i meant an actual Dark Prophet where he's massive and looks like the armor set with a completely new moveset.

[Sir_Gorz]

Originally posted by GrimWisp:

honestly i really liked his moveset and design but his attacks were definitely on the weak side if you had medium/heavy armor. I didn't even use Cerberus armor i just used the Angel VI set. they should have had us fight Eli in his human form first with a new moveset and then have it transition to the angel phase.

The Angel VI is also a Goliath class and it has way more defense compared to its TS1 version. In fact, compared to the Cerberus without its buff on 3 or 5 batteries their ability to soak up all sorts of damage is about the same.

[GrimWisp]

ah, I didn't really look at the armor values in this game tbh but I did remember it have mediocre defense in TS1. I was just a sucker for the way the Angel VI set looked and its weapons in TS1 so I was a bit let down to see they removed a few of them and didn't add any new ones for the new weapon types.