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So does universal school give a bonus to all spells as i have not seen universal spells only in this game?
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GrandMajora Oct 14, 2018 @ 6:57am 
Hover your mouse over the school specialization and it should tell you what bonuses they grant.

I don't remember the second bonus, but the first one Universalists get is the ability to make a ranged attack with a melee weapon via the Jedi Light Saber Throw.

Basically, you use magic to send your weapon out, hit the target, and make it return to your hand!
The Infinity Sock Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Hover your mouse over the school specialization and it should tell you what bonuses they grant.

I don't remember the second bonus, but the first one Universalists get is the ability to make a ranged attack with a melee weapon via the Jedi Light Saber Throw.

Basically, you use magic to send your weapon out, hit the target, and make it return to your hand!
That is news to me if it is true
Sigmund Void Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Hover your mouse over the school specialization and it should tell you what bonuses they grant.

I don't remember the second bonus, but the first one Universalists get is the ability to make a ranged attack with a melee weapon via the Jedi Light Saber Throw.

Basically, you use magic to send your weapon out, hit the target, and make it return to your hand!


it doesn't tell you like most things in this game do not really tell you what they do.
faolanthehedgehog Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:40am 
No. Universal is not actually a school. It's basically a small number of spells that don't fall under any other school of magic. In fact, in the core rules of the tabletop, there are fewer Universal spells than there are levels of spells. In addition, in the tabletop, you would not be able to choose Universal as a school for purposes of Spell Focus. Even if you could, it would be useless because none of them have saving throws involved anyways (except maybe Limited Wish and Wish when they emulate another spell, but then it would just be treated as being of the school of the spell being emulated).

Universalist wizards are those that don't specialize in a school. They can cast spells from all schools, but they don't get bonus spells per day or any other benefits from specializing.
Last edited by faolanthehedgehog; Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:42am
UR|Dialetheia Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:42am 
And yet, somehow, you can take Spell Focus(Universal) as a feat.
Morgian Oct 14, 2018 @ 7:43am 
Universal school: you don't get bonus spell slots, but you have no opposite schools either, so each spell costs 1 slot to memorise. The special benefit of universal mages is that they get a few levels of free metamagic each day to manipulate spells on the fly like a sorcerer can. I don't know how that was implemented.
Morgian Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:07am 
Nope. The spells that belong to the universal school in PF are:
Lvl 0: arcane mark, prestidigitation
Lvl 1: dead man's ink
Lvl 4: halt plants
Lvl 5: permanency
Lvl 7: limited wish
Lvl 9: wish

As you can see, not much of a school at all.
Sigmund Void Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Morgian:
Nope. The spells that belong to the universal school in PF are:
Lvl 0: arcane mark, prestidigitation
Lvl 1: dead man's ink
Lvl 4: halt plants
Lvl 5: permanency
Lvl 7: limited wish
Lvl 9: wish

As you can see, not much of a school at all.


Ironically this is less universal as any other school
Sigmund Void Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Faexin:
Originally posted by Morgian:
Nope. The spells that belong to the universal school in PF are:
Lvl 0: arcane mark, prestidigitation
Lvl 1: dead man's ink
Lvl 4: halt plants
Lvl 5: permanency
Lvl 7: limited wish
Lvl 9: wish

As you can see, not much of a school at all.


Ironically this is less universal than any other school
The Infinity Sock Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by UR|Dialetheia:
And yet, somehow, you can take Spell Focus(Universal) as a feat.
That's why i thought it would give us a bonus to all spells
Mimung Oct 14, 2018 @ 8:23am 
Universal gives you the aprentice hand skill (ranged attack with meele wep, to hit mod by int, number of casts mod by int - hits kinda hard earlygame, becomes useless lateron) and skills to empower, increase range or quickcast spells as you level up. you dont get any bonus cast slots.
GrandMajora Oct 14, 2018 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Morgian:
Nope. The spells that belong to the universal school in PF are:
Lvl 0: arcane mark, prestidigitation
Lvl 1: dead man's ink
Lvl 4: halt plants
Lvl 5: permanency
Lvl 7: limited wish
Lvl 9: wish

As you can see, not much of a school at all.

I think they dumped all their learning plans into figuring out how to not ♥♥♥♥ up the Wish spells...
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