Character stats

[e11]

I was just wondering if Strength, Intelligence and all that mattered outside of skill rolls and combat? Do the stats feature in conversation at all? Will making a low-Int smasher cost me?

[nex]

there are many skill checks but i don't know if its like fallout 2 where you are locked out / get different results based on things like int..

[kreivi]

with 7 int you get -2 modifier. That mean skills like knowledge (pretty much anything for example local, nature, nobility, religion, history, geography and so on) get -2 for they rolls. Allso it mean you get -2 skillpoint per level (naturally you allways get atleast 1 skillpoint no matter what)

During game there are multiple times when you want (atleast some of your party) to let's say hunt, make food, use camouflage as part of camping or do things like climb, intimidate or other checks. If you have low skill or no skill at all it mean you most likely either miss that change totally (miss a lot of loot / hidden things / locked things / spring plenty of traps and so on) or just are unable to do them properly and get bad things happen to you. Even simple "try to hide, climb over the wall and take care of some guards / sleeping enemies" might be impossible leaving you only "bash through front gate and alarm everyone at the keep" option left.

Trying to make one or two maxed out and rest down to 7 or so is not best idea, you can try out different build using calculator here:
http://jody-white.com/pathfinder-ability-score-calculator.php
Putting atleast 12 point to intelligence is really a good idea instead of 7, unless you really really want to play PC who can not even read, have hard time trying to speak properly and so on...

[Stratagemini]

Stats do not affect your dialogue choices, but Alignment does.

[Sage]

Lame. Deadfire has checks for attributes, skills, classes, allignment, reputation, ect.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Endtimes Prophet:

Lame. Deadfire has checks for attributes, skills, classes, allignment, reputation, ect.

Attributes don't seem to affect dialogue choices, but Skills and Abilities do.

There are some dialogue options that become available only if you have someone in your party who knows the proper spell. For example, the lizardman village is being controlled by an evil creature who uses magic to conceal itself. If somebody in your party has the spell that can reveal magical concealment (like Glitterdust, for example), you unlock a dialogue option to expose the creature's presence.


You also come across skill challenges such as Athletics, Mobility, Nature and such, which can make certain events easier or harder, depending on how well you perform.


The skills also seem to impact how well you do in camp, such as a good Stealth skill for setting up camouflage, or a Nature skill for cooking a proper meal.


Also, don't compare this to Pillars of Eternity.

This isn't PoE.

This doesn't even take place in the same franchise as PoE!

[thainen]

There are also secret checks that make dialogue options visible only if they are successful (like Knowledge: World check in the prologue to realize that Tartuccio looks Pitaxian).

[Zerathule]

For those secret checks, is it made with the main character ? the highest skill in the party ? for every party member ?

[thainen]

Party highest. As the leader, you get advised by your entourage :)

[Zerathule]

Cool :) It means i can have a half orc with 7 int and 7 cha as a leader :p
Me king, me da strongest !

[thainen]

Yes. We assume that the player character, no matter what their stats are, is a natural-born leader, inspiring others even if their Charisma is low. If we didn't, the player character would be locked out of most classes.

[e11]

Originally posted by thainen:

Yes. We assume that the player character, no matter what their stats are, is a natural-born leader, inspiring others even if their Charisma is low. If we didn't, the player character would be locked out of most classes.

Or just so strong that no one dares disobey. :)

[Grifta]

The PC has Spiwit!

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Zerathule:

Cool :) It means i can have a half orc with 7 int and 7 cha as a leader :p
Me king, me da strongest !

Just be careful not to piss off your Leaders, though. I was just watching Spidey's let's play of the demo and his Chancellor quit the position because he never seemed to listen to his advice.

[Stratagemini]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by Zerathule:

Cool :) It means i can have a half orc with 7 int and 7 cha as a leader :p
Me king, me da strongest !

Just be careful not to piss off your Leaders, though. I was just watching Spidey's let's play of the demo and his Chancellor quit the position because he never seemed to listen to his advice.

That's possible? Huh.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Stratagemini:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Just be careful not to piss off your Leaders, though. I was just watching Spidey's let's play of the demo and his Chancellor quit the position because he never seemed to listen to his advice.

That's possible? Huh.

Yeah, which is why I'm hoping the leadership positions get more NPC's to fill them, because the current selection is very limited. Such as Jubilost being the only available Treasurer.


From the looks of it, there are some NPC's in game who exist specifically to fill in leadership roles, such as Batholomew, the Storyteller, and Jhod. They're not actual party companions, but you can still make them leaders.


But the guy did clearly state his reasons for quitting the job were because the Baroness didn't listen to his advice often enough. He said that he felt useless and was to old to keep arguing with them, so he just stepped down and they were forced to replace him.