Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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HTakara Dec 5, 2018 @ 9:07pm
Is Harrim's Channeling Negative or Positive?
the number of channeling he can get is pretty crappy despite the high WIS, and I gave him a ton of the passives that boosts +2 each, and it still pales in comparison to Tristian.
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HTakara Dec 6, 2018 @ 2:24pm 
Originally posted by Sieglinde Eilserv:
It affects how many you get to use. Something like you get 3 channels base adjusted by your cha modifier. Your charisma also needs to be 13 to learn selective channeling. So a gimp like Harrim with 8 cha actually has only 2 uses of channel energy. Tristian has a ton of them because he has like a 16 or 18 cha, can't remember which. Tristian being able to heal your entire group 4-5 more times and also be able to use it at any time is huge. The sucky damage Harrim does doesn't make up for the healing he loses.
well ♥♥♥♥, so Harrim is just as useless as he appears.
kaymarciy Dec 6, 2018 @ 2:35pm 
I feel Harrim was supposed to be a mid-line debuffer. The dude who keeps spamming Bane, Prayer and all this sort of AoE crap. But after lvl8 it's not really that effective/important anymore. And he pretty muchs sucks at everything else. He is bad at hitting stuff, he is bad at tanking, he is bad at healing. Would be much better if he was a Crusader. He is fun though, I like his personality.
HTakara Dec 6, 2018 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by kaymarciy:
I feel Harrim was supposed to be a mid-line debuffer. The dude who keeps spamming Bane, Prayer and all this sort of AoE crap. But after lvl8 it's not really that effective/important anymore. And he pretty muchs sucks at everything else. He is bad at hitting stuff, he is bad at tanking, he is bad at healing. Would be much better if he was a Crusader. He is fun though, I like his personality.

yeah he is a fun character, its why i wanted to make him useful lol
Morgian Dec 6, 2018 @ 2:46pm 
He still has his healing spells. The channeling thing isn't all that important from level 9 onwards, although it is of course convenient. I invested into extra channels for him even :)
Indure Dec 6, 2018 @ 3:16pm 
There's a couple of items that you get in chapter 2-3 that dramatically boost his healing. He can get a head slot that gives him stronger heals (roughly 26 healing per channel for me at ~ lvl 9) from a quest in chapter 2. In chapter 3 I also ended up with 2 rings that stack and give you +3 channels each.

Also like Morgian said investments into extra channel feats can be taken multiple times and there isn't a lot of other feats he really needs.
Last edited by Indure; Dec 6, 2018 @ 3:22pm
Morgian Dec 6, 2018 @ 3:51pm 
Unfortunately he can wear only one booster for 2d6. The rings add 2 channels per day each, and I found two of them.
One of the boosters is the phylactery in the Witch's Hut map under the rock next to the undead mayor (revealed when he gets released). The vastly better one is a gift from the artisans which gives +6 WIS and CHA and adds +2d6 to channels, too.)
Thing is, all those boosts can be used on any other cleric who doesn't have an 8 cha :p
Super-XIX Dec 7, 2018 @ 4:20am 
He has 10 Cha, though. And besides Channel, Cha is effectively worthless for Clerics.
JDouglasBarson Dec 7, 2018 @ 5:20am 
I only use Harrim for the protection spells/after battle heals before level 6. He has just enough channel heal for after combat to fill the HP after the cures. I always multi class him. You could take some levels as fighter for melee damage or druid for the pet damage.
HTakara Dec 7, 2018 @ 6:32am 
Originally posted by JDouglasBarson:
I only use Harrim for the protection spells/after battle heals before level 6. He has just enough channel heal for after combat to fill the HP after the cures. I always multi class him. You could take some levels as fighter for melee damage or druid for the pet damage.

I actually considered multiclassing him to a fighter, his STR is high enough that you can pad it with modifiers and he has good CON too, so I don't think it'll be a bad trade off.
Storm Shadow Dec 19, 2018 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by The Superjew:
He has 10 Cha, though. And besides Channel, Cha is effectively worthless for Clerics.
Yes but selecticve channeling is fantastic, and having it requires a 13 chr, and a cleric that has it is much better than one that doesn't.
Mauman Dec 19, 2018 @ 9:16pm 
Originally posted by J-ManZ:
Originally posted by The Superjew:
He has 10 Cha, though. And besides Channel, Cha is effectively worthless for Clerics.
Yes but selecticve channeling is fantastic, and having it requires a 13 chr, and a cleric that has it is much better than one that doesn't.

You can use items to achieve requirements for feats (unlike tabletop). So all Harrim needs a +4 charisma headpiece (achievable in chapter two if you know where to look).
Iry Dec 19, 2018 @ 10:59pm 
Harrim is interesting.

He has enough armor that you don't want him to tank, but he can take hits now and then. I like to put tank-based teamwork feats on him and make him stand BEHIND my tank. The tank is boosted even higher, while Harrim pumps healing into them.

Tristian is definitely the better healer, but he folds like a wet tissue.
nym_moondown Dec 20, 2018 @ 12:05am 
I gave him my crown, as being a rogue is about useless for me. So selective channel is now active, and that is great. Before that I used his channel healing only outside combat (with some exceptions).
His past and present role in my party is to protect Octavia/Linzi when I find myself surrounded, main tank and dps free to engage enemies (alchimists, casters, big bosses). In all other situation my Harrim is vary good as a second tank, buffer, and, if buffed, also as a second/third dps
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Morthra Dec 20, 2018 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by Sarasvato:
In general: good god worshiper use positive energy, evil god worshiper use negative energy, neutral god worshiper choose what they want to use at level 1. I don't think anyone can use both. Or maybe by multiclassing?

In this game, the way it works is that good clerics channel positive energy, even if they worship neutral gods. Similarly, evil clerics channel negative energy even if they worship neutral gods. Neutral clerics choose at level 1 which type of energy to channel, which isn't necessarily associated with their god's alignment - you could, for example, channel negative energy while worshipping a Good god as a neutral cleric.
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