Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Horimboom Sep 17, 2018 @ 11:10am
Haven't followed the game close Is Fighter/Weapon Master possible?
Like subject does anyone know Weapon Master made it in game?
Originally posted by Vyper:
Search pathfinder kingmaker classes on youtube. People have videos of all of the races/class there. Weapon master isnt in sadly. Fighters can be tower shield specialists, two-hand fighters and Aldori for dual wield.
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Vyper Sep 17, 2018 @ 11:55am 
Search pathfinder kingmaker classes on youtube. People have videos of all of the races/class there. Weapon master isnt in sadly. Fighters can be tower shield specialists, two-hand fighters and Aldori for dual wield.
Selvokaz Sep 17, 2018 @ 3:29pm 
i believe their will be a kensai archtype for the magus, while not identical to the Weapon Master it is a good substitute, and might suit your needs. https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/magus/archetypes/paizo-magus-archetypes/kensai
Balkoth Sep 17, 2018 @ 3:31pm 
Weapon Master as in the Neverwinter Nights 2 version or the Pathfinder Fighter Archetype?

I think the closest you're going to get to the pathfinder archetype is the Two Handed Fighter.
Grifta Sep 17, 2018 @ 5:01pm 
I agree with Balkoth. Two Handed Fighter, or Adori (dueling sword expert). Weapon Master was 100% pure martial.

Magus has too much magic stuff going on.
GrandMajora Sep 17, 2018 @ 5:10pm 
Sword Saint is an archetype for Magus class, if that helps?
Horimboom Sep 17, 2018 @ 8:04pm 
Sorry for late reply just got home from work.

I was talking about the Pathfinder Fighter Archetype which from what i can tell was similer to the weapon master prestige class in 3.0/3.5. Im not that familer with pathfinder other then its suppose to be 3.75 d&d according to some friends. Kensai does seem similer after reading some so guess ill give that a try.

Thanks for the answers
Balkoth Sep 17, 2018 @ 8:35pm 
Originally posted by OldManDew:
Sorry for late reply just got home from work.

I was talking about the Pathfinder Fighter Archetype which from what i can tell was similer to the weapon master prestige class in 3.0/3.5. Im not that familer with pathfinder other then its suppose to be 3.75 d&d according to some friends. Kensai does seem similer after reading some so guess ill give that a try.

Thanks for the answers

Weapon Master actually very different from 3.5. It's not a prestige class, as you know.

https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo-fighter-archetypes/weapon-master/

Instead of giving you an increased critical threat range, it's more about doing more damage with a chosen weapon. Pathfinder doesn't really like Martials all that much when it comes to making them absolutely crazy.
Marcos_DS Sep 18, 2018 @ 12:12am 
The normal fighter actually has a lvl 20 feature that reminded me of the Weapon Master in 3.5: Auto-Confirm Crits and increase crit multiplier by 1. Also the fighter automatically gets +4/+4 in a weapon group (and +3/+3 in another).

But the Sword Saint Magus variant is probably closer to what you want, since that fighter feature is so late in the game.
GrandMajora Sep 18, 2018 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

But the Sword Saint Magus variant is probably closer to what you want, since that fighter feature is so late in the game.

The Kensai (also known as Sword Saint) was also an archetype choice for Fighter in Baldur's Gate 2.
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Grifta Sep 18, 2018 @ 8:35am 
I feel like everyone got off track from the original question. Sword Saint is not even close to Weapon Master. https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Weapon_Master_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)

Bonuses to attack and damage with a specific weapon <- core fighter ability
Wear medium & heavy armour without penalty <- core fighter ability
Increase crit multiplier, and auto confirm crits <- capstone fighter ability
No spell casting <- fighter

I'm not seeing any light armor, adding int to anything, and I'm seeing access to fighter only feats which Sword Saint doesn't get.

Core fighter is objectively as close to Weapon Master as you're going to get in Pathfinder, unless there is a Fighter archetype that I don't know of that makes it even closer.
Marcos_DS Sep 18, 2018 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by Grifta:
I feel like everyone got off track from the original question. Sword Saint is not even close to Weapon Master. https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Weapon_Master_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)

Bonuses to attack and damage with a specific weapon <- core fighter ability
Wear medium & heavy armour without penalty <- core fighter ability
Increase crit multiplier, and auto confirm crits <- capstone fighter ability
No spell casting <- fighter

I'm not seeing any light armor, adding int to anything, and I'm seeing access to fighter only feats which Sword Saint doesn't get.

Core fighter is objectively as close to Weapon Master as you're going to get in Pathfinder, unless there is a Fighter archetype that I don't know of that makes it even closer.

Mastering a weapon is at the core of weapon master and sword saint (with is slightly different from P&P kensai by the way). Sure, figther gets the crit multiplier at level 20, but Sword Saint gets it at level 4 (for a arcane pool cost, also at lvl 20 for free). Sword Saint counts as fighter at his level-3 for feats. Sword Saint can expend arcane pool to improve his weapon (lvl5 add keen or flaming or just enhancement). Crit confirm +int at lvl 9.

In short, Sword Saint Magus gets the crithunting effects of Weapon Master far earlier than the core fighter who gets that at lvl 20, imo. So despite the differences (light armor, spells) i think its still a good enough fit to recommend...
Selvokaz Sep 18, 2018 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by Marcos_DS:
Originally posted by Grifta:
I feel like everyone got off track from the original question. Sword Saint is not even close to Weapon Master. https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Weapon_Master_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)

Bonuses to attack and damage with a specific weapon <- core fighter ability
Wear medium & heavy armour without penalty <- core fighter ability
Increase crit multiplier, and auto confirm crits <- capstone fighter ability
No spell casting <- fighter

I'm not seeing any light armor, adding int to anything, and I'm seeing access to fighter only feats which Sword Saint doesn't get.

Core fighter is objectively as close to Weapon Master as you're going to get in Pathfinder, unless there is a Fighter archetype that I don't know of that makes it even closer.

Mastering a weapon is at the core of weapon master and sword saint (with is slightly different from P&P kensai by the way). Sure, figther gets the crit multiplier at level 20, but Sword Saint gets it at level 4 (for a arcane pool cost, also at lvl 20 for free). Sword Saint counts as fighter at his level-3 for feats. Sword Saint can expend arcane pool to improve his weapon (lvl5 add keen or flaming or just enhancement). Crit confirm +int at lvl 9.

In short, Sword Saint Magus gets the crithunting effects of Weapon Master far earlier than the core fighter who gets that at lvl 20, imo. So despite the differences (light armor, spells) i think its still a good enough fit to recommend...

Thanks for saying it for me. ;)
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