Temple of the elk feedback.

[Straph]

So you spend like 100bp, and 30 or 60 days to rebuild the temple. When you go back to the temple it's not rebuilt. There are a few people there, one that sells you scrolls you can get at the capital. He then tells you it would take years to rebuild the temple. So where did my 100 BP go, and why did I need to spend that much time rebuilding something that didn't get rebuilt? I'm confused as to why you would ever go for the rebuild option instead of getting 140BP for sacking the place.

My feedback would be to actually have some sort of meaningful change happen for rebuilding it other than a few tents, and a guy that sells 4 scrolls.

[DEADPOO]

Is that's what's going to happen?! I picked that choice too. I'm locked in now and can't change it.

[EvilDonut]

Originally posted by DEADPOO:

Is that's what's going to happen?! I picked that choice too. I'm locked in now and can't change it.

I have a bug that allows me to pillage the temple even if i rebuilt it.

[DEADPOO]

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

I have a bug that allows me to pillage the temple even if i rebuilt it.

Just wonderful.

Feels like we're all playing different games.

[OnlyOffensive]

in theory it should unlock special features for this region. Aka make it religios center. But noone seems to have achieved it. and since its in northern marches, you cant annex it for quite time anyway.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Shouldn't even take that much BP. Erastil is a wilderness god, he shouldn't need anything too elaborate for a temple.

[Robineus]

Much later on when you have your capital upgraded to level 3 it will unlock a unique reigon improvement, I can't remember exactly what it does.

[OnlyOffensive]

its one of those "trap" projects that do "something" in several years. Like researching curses and trade agreement with surtova. In fact agrement with surtova doesnt do anything good at all.

[aramintai]

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

Originally posted by DEADPOO:

Is that's what's going to happen?! I picked that choice too. I'm locked in now and can't change it.

I have a bug that allows me to pillage the temple even if i rebuilt it.

Hey, I've the same bug. I've rebuilt it and left that pillage card until the end of the game thinking maybe there will be more rebuilding projects. But no, it's just a bug - that card should have been removed.

[Straph]

Originally posted by EvilDonut:

Originally posted by DEADPOO:

Is that's what's going to happen?! I picked that choice too. I'm locked in now and can't change it.

I have a bug that allows me to pillage the temple even if i rebuilt it.

I see that as well. Which is odd. Maybe pillage then rebuld? Gaining 40 BP rebuilding it?

[Straph]

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Shouldn't even take that much BP. Erastil is a wilderness god, he shouldn't need anything too elaborate for a temple.

According to lore. Sites dedicated to Erastil are simple affairs, even in more civilized locations; shrines are usually nothing more than a wooden building or house serving communities of his faithful. Just as Old Deadeye emphasizes the simple things in life, his shrines focus on providing for his follower's more practical needs. Ceremony and formality are often abandoned in such locations, which instead act simply as a place to pray, or to sleep.

Clearly the devs are fans of pathfinder, so much that they didn't even know the lore about Erastil mostly being worshiped hunting lodges, and simple farm houses. Would have been much cooler if you went to the site and it was just a hunters lodge under attack, and you could rebuild that hunters lodge to bring in people to hunt in the area.

[OnlyOffensive]

regardless of how god worshipped, no god would be stranger to grand temples and such.

[DEADPOO]

Originally posted by OnlyOffensive:

regardless of how god worshipped, no god would be stranger to grand temples and such.

Crom does not care for that cr*p! Crom laughs at your four winds and your grandiose temples.

[Procrastinating Gamer]

Originally posted by Straph:

Originally posted by Shadow88:

Shouldn't even take that much BP. Erastil is a wilderness god, he shouldn't need anything too elaborate for a temple.

According to lore. Sites dedicated to Erastil are simple affairs, even in more civilized locations; shrines are usually nothing more than a wooden building or house serving communities of his faithful. Just as Old Deadeye emphasizes the simple things in life, his shrines focus on providing for his follower's more practical needs. Ceremony and formality are often abandoned in such locations, which instead act simply as a place to pray, or to sleep.

Clearly the devs are fans of pathfinder, so much that they didn't even know the lore about Erastil mostly being worshiped hunting lodges, and simple farm houses. Would have been much cooler if you went to the site and it was just a hunters lodge under attack, and you could rebuild that hunters lodge to bring in people to hunt in the area.

To be fair; the Temple of the Elk does exist in the original tabletop game and is very much like what we see in this game. This is the battle map for it printed in the first part of the Kingmaker Adventure Path.[kingmakercampaign.pbworks.com]

The Guardian of the Elk was still a kind of bear, but something very different to what we encounter in this game.

The Guardian, which appears to just be a mad grizzly bear, was originally a priest of Erastil back when the last lot of Taldan colonists tried to establish themselves in the region. This temple keeper went a little mad after finally admitting to himself that the indigenous tribes of trolls, savage humanoids, and other monsters had "won" and would drive the Taldan colonists out. He was so frustrated that he lured a large bear into the temple and sacrificed it in the name of "any who would answer the call" to aid against the humanoids. Needless to say, Erastil didn't like this, and drove the priest mad before stripping him of his abilities and even his humanity, turning him into a grizzly bear like the one he'd sacrificed. He also cursed the keeper with immortality but not enough intelligence to make anything of it, binding him to the temple to serve as a guardian until someone worthy of Erastil came to cleanse it.

[Shahadem]

What if I wanted to turn that healy pool into an expensive day spa?

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by OnlyOffensive:

in theory it should unlock special features for this region. Aka make it religios center. But noone seems to have achieved it. and since its in northern marches, you cant annex it for quite time anyway.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1548152520

Maybe you need to wait till regional upgrades are unlocked or you actually own the northern marches, but it certainly worked for me.