Is it possible to make a sword and shield dps fighter?

[EvilDonut]

Title says it all. Is there any way to make it decent? Just wondering

[Andante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8aPgjJS0Go

why not try to shielded thug/fighter? Seems alot better in all aspects compared to a pure fighter.

[EvilDonut]

Eh, i considered it, but i am not really a fan of thug

[Midnight]

There is a feat line that allows you to fight with shields. But the problem is that shields do abysmal damage, you need several feats to make it even function and you are restricted to light shields because otherwise you'll get -4 to your main hand attack.

So the only way to make up for all of that is to take advanatge of the fact that shields proc sneak attacks. Without sneak attacks DPS sword and shield fighter is worthless.

[OnlyOffensive]

its possible, but dont expect it to be on par with barbs/rogues/dps figters/rangers..... well basically anyone else.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by OnlyOffensive:

its possible, but dont expect it to be on par with barbs/rogues/dps figters/rangers..... well basically anyone else.

That's my point. You'll be a fighter with + shield AC and several wasted feats doing less damage than damage dealers while being less tanky than tanks (due to those missing feats).

[OnlyOffensive]

honestly shield fighters are pretty good as they are, combat expertise with helmet, dueling glove, possible dazzling display into shatter defences ( gives them attacks against flat-footed ) while being tanky, at least level in stalwart defender, dps are for others.

I mean there is a route into shield attacks, but it's a long one.

[Myrtillo]

Maybe you can try a freebooter with sword and shield combat style ?
Dex can stay at 10, focus on str, you still get the 2WF skill line maxed.
Low base damage of shields doesn't matter when most of it comes from your str modifier.
You get lead weapons and later aspect of the wolf+ other ranger goodies

+ All the party bonuses to hit and dmg from freebooter

[Sigmund Void]

You could go for a Sword/Shield Aldori Defender altough you had to make some tradeoffs.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Djebe:

Maybe you can try a freebooter with sword and shield combat style ?
Dex can stay at 10, focus on str, you still get the 2WF skill line maxed.
Low base damage of shields doesn't matter when most of it comes from your str modifier.
You get lead weapons and later aspect of the wolf+ other ranger goodies

+ All the party bonuses to hit and dmg from freebooter

I played exactly that. You're better off using weapon in the off hand.

Off hand weapons also only get 50% STR damage and unlike shields there's plenty of light weapons with 2d6 elemental damage and other bonuses.

Haven't seen a single offensive shield in the game. Which is what it boils down to, there's a lot of offensive shield use in PnP, shield spikes and the like. But I haven't found anything like that in the game... if it's there it's too late to be useful anyway.

[EvilDonut]

according to this list, there seem to be at least one offensive shield: https://wiki.fireundubh.com/kingmaker/shields

[EvilDonut]

And another question: does double slice work with shields as well?

[Sigmund Void]

Originally posted by w0lv3n:

And another question: does double slice work with shields as well?

Not sure but it should work with Str, but I think you couldn't finesse with double slice

[EvilDonut]

Originally posted by Faexin:

Originally posted by w0lv3n:

And another question: does double slice work with shields as well?

Not sure but it should work with Str, but I think you couldn't finesse with double slice

Yeah, the build i am thinking about is STR based with just enough DEX to get the TWF feats. And i won't be taking the greater one, so if i am not wrong i will only need 17 DEX end game

[Sigmund Void]

Originally posted by w0lv3n:

Originally posted by Faexin:

Not sure but it should work with Str, but I think you couldn't finesse with double slice

Yeah, the build i am thinking about is STR based with just enough DEX to get the TWF feats. And i won't be taking the greater one, so if i am not wrong i will only need 17 DEX end game

I thought about doing a quite similar build but I'd want to give it at least medium armor because its STR based and I wasnt sure if I could make use of the dex bonus to AC.


But you should keep in mind that you are either kinda squishy because of 'low" CON or lack STR for attacks.

Or do you completely dump Int, Cha, Wis? What would be your stats after creation?

[EvilDonut]

was thinking about something like:

18 STR
15 DEX (+ 1 lvl 4, +1 lvl 8)
14 CON (+1 lvl 12, +1 lvl 16)
12 INT
10 WIS
11 CHA (+1 lvl 20)

CHA is basically because of the game setting....I generally always want to be decently social, since i am gonna be a king. (Although the crown will then give a +6 CHA, so i just might drop it to 10 and go WIS 11 instead).
This setup is for starting up with TWF, but i am also considering not to, drop DEX to 13 and up CON and only get TWF at level 8, after 2 stat boosts. This is because CON 14 is kinda lowish, so i will have low hp (although i could just sacrifice a feat and get toughness to balance things up). But then i think i would be suboptimal, unless i will use a two handed weapon to get there.

I Could also go STR 17 and DEX 16, to be able to get improved TWF at level 4 and be done with that.