Half-Dragon Lifespan

[The Infinity Sock]

How long would you say a half-dragon can live for i have been looking for the answer to my question for years the only thing i have find out is dragons can live a longer life if there have a really high charisma but thats about it if you lot can help me i would really appreciate it thinks :)

[Grifta]

That it probably a Paizo question. If it's helpful, here is the average lifespans of every playable creature in the Pen & Paper: http://legacy.aonprd.com/advancedRaceGuide/ageHeightWeight.html

Half-blooded elementals live up to 250 years, so I wouldn't expect much over that.

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Grifta:

That it probably a Paizo question. If it's helpful, here is the average lifespans of every playable creature in the Pen & Paper: http://legacy.aonprd.com/advancedRaceGuide/ageHeightWeight.html

Half-blooded elementals live up to 250 years, so I wouldn't expect much over that.

Ok cool thanks for that :)

[GrandMajora]

I suppose it would have to depend on what the other half of the race is in order to figure that out.

For example, Half Orcs rarely live longer than 75 years, while Half Elves can typically reach 180 years. Compare that to pure blooded Elves, who can live for roughly a thousand, and the tragically short life spans of the barbaric Orcs who end up dying in battle!

The last time I checked, a pure blooded dragon can live for 10,000 years, but that was going off D&D, so I don't know how it transitions to Pathfinder.

[Selvokaz]

Pathfinder is a little different when it comes to ages, and even D&D has changed their stance on this I think. in Pathfinder, elves can live to 350 + 4d100 years, so on average 550. My personal rule of the thumb in this particular case is to find a good multiplier that represent the exotic half templates potency and how much it adds or takes away from the base creatures life span.

A Great Wyrm Dragon generally reaches that age after 1201+ years according to Pathfinder, this is not their venerable age, this is their utmost prime stage. However they do generally have a set amount of time to live, and worse still they rarely reach Great Wyrm status as by the point they become mature adults they usually become a problem that some enterprising band of adventurers usually have to kill or they might be killed by another older Dragon looking to steal their hoard or increase their domain, worse still some dragons just become suicidal and would rather die in a blaze of glory than just wither away and die. However I think the general rule of thumb is that after great wyrm status they can enjoy another 3 millenium before their bodies begin to weaken and eventually wither away. So 4000+ another 1 or 2d100 then either they die of old age, plane shift to their patron deities plane of existence, or if available become a dracolich.

Regardless I like to think for each age catagory a dragon can have, half of that potental age development can extend a half dragons life. So True Dragons have 12 age catagories, so I add half of that to a Half Dragon as a straight multiplier to the base creatures normal maximum age.

So to go back to the first example, a Half Dragon Elf would have a maximum age on average of 3,300, and the stages in which it goes from baby, to child, to adult, to middle, to old, and venerable split that 3,300 years amongst them. So the 6 age groups I mentioned would likely split that time amongst them, how much of that time depends on the race. Elves are considered children from the age of 110 to 175, thats about 8.5% of the elves life for that particular age group, therefore the half dragon elf's childhood would last about 388 years(8.5%. of 3,300) You'd have to work it out like that for all the differences between age catagories, and of course all of these changes depend on the race.

I hope that was indepth enough, this is all my own opinion of course.

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

I suppose it would have to depend on what the other half of the race is in order to figure that out.

For example, Half Orcs rarely live longer than 75 years, while Half Elves can typically reach 180 years. Compare that to pure blooded Elves, who can live for roughly a thousand, and the tragically short life spans of the barbaric Orcs who end up dying in battle!

The last time I checked, a pure blooded dragon can live for 10,000 years, but that was going off D&D, so I don't know how it transitions to Pathfinder.

The best one to go for is the golden dragon as their live much longer life

Originally posted by Lettus:

Pathfinder is a little different when it comes to ages, and even D&D has changed their stance on this I think. in Pathfinder, elves can live to 350 + 4d100 years, so on average 550. My personal rule of the thumb in this particular case is to find a good multiplier that represent the exotic half templates potency and how much it adds or takes away from the base creatures life span.

A Great Wyrm Dragon generally reaches that age after 1201+ years according to Pathfinder, this is not their venerable age, this is their utmost prime stage. However they do generally have a set amount of time to live, and worse still they rarely reach Great Wyrm status as by the point they become mature adults they usually become a problem that some enterprising band of adventurers usually have to kill or they might be killed by another older Dragon looking to steal their hoard or increase their domain, worse still some dragons just become suicidal and would rather die in a blaze of glory than just wither away and die. However I think the general rule of thumb is that after great wyrm status they can enjoy another 3 millenium before their bodies begin to weaken and eventually wither away. So 4000+ another 1 or 2d100 then either they die of old age, plane shift to their patron deities plane of existence, or if available become a dracolich.

Regardless I like to think for each age catagory a dragon can have, half of that potental age development can extend a half dragons life. So True Dragons have 12 age catagories, so I add half of that to a Half Dragon as a straight multiplier to the base creatures normal maximum age.

So to go back to the first example, a Half Dragon Elf would have a maximum age on average of 3,300, and the stages in which it goes from baby, to child, to adult, to middle, to old, and venerable split that 3,300 years amongst them. So the 6 age groups I mentioned would likely split that time amongst them, how much of that time depends on the race. Elves are considered children from the age of 110 to 175, thats about 8.5% of the elves life for that particular age group, therefore the half dragon elf's childhood would last about 388 years(8.5%. of 3,300) You'd have to work it out like that for all the differences between age catagories, and of course all of these changes depend on the race.

I hope that was indepth enough, this is all my own opinion of course.

Thanks for that this question has been really bugging me scene i have first play a dragon disciple in neverwinter nights one

[Grifta]

Right, sorry on my way out the door, and forgot to add the variable max.

[JODEGAFUN]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

I suppose it would have to depend on what the other half of the race is in order to figure that out.

For example, Half Orcs rarely live longer than 75 years, while Half Elves can typically reach 180 years. Compare that to pure blooded Elves, who can live for roughly a thousand, and the tragically short life spans of the barbaric Orcs who end up dying in battle!

The last time I checked, a pure blooded dragon can live for 10,000 years, but that was going off D&D, so I don't know how it transitions to Pathfinder.

In partfinder the oldest, strongest dragons are older than 1201+ years (after tthat point they are great wyrms, and at least most time gargantua sized which depends on the type of dragon, and grow not any more. Until that point they are growing all the time and get stronger)

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by JODEGAFUN:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

I suppose it would have to depend on what the other half of the race is in order to figure that out.

For example, Half Orcs rarely live longer than 75 years, while Half Elves can typically reach 180 years. Compare that to pure blooded Elves, who can live for roughly a thousand, and the tragically short life spans of the barbaric Orcs who end up dying in battle!

The last time I checked, a pure blooded dragon can live for 10,000 years, but that was going off D&D, so I don't know how it transitions to Pathfinder.

In partfinder the oldest, strongest dragons are older than 1201+ years (after tthat point they are great wyrms, and at least most time gargantua sized which depends on the type of dragon, and grow not any more. Until that point they are growing all the time and get stronger)

I thought a Dragon's size and power were connected to their hoard, which is why they have a tendency to go on mass murder sprees when they catch people stealing from them?

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by JODEGAFUN:

In partfinder the oldest, strongest dragons are older than 1201+ years (after tthat point they are great wyrms, and at least most time gargantua sized which depends on the type of dragon, and grow not any more. Until that point they are growing all the time and get stronger)

I thought a Dragon's size and power were connected to their hoard, which is why they have a tendency to go on mass murder sprees when they catch people stealing from them?

Only chromatic dragons do that the only way you are going to get a metallic dragons to kill you is if you are going to harm them or are really evil

[Frank "The Senate" Sheev]

Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

I thought a Dragon's size and power were connected to their hoard, which is why they have a tendency to go on mass murder sprees when they catch people stealing from them?

Only chromatic dragons do that the only way you are going to get a metallic dragons to kill you is if you are going to harm them or are really evil

Dunno, copper dragons look like the type that can put you in life-threatening conditions just for fun and then act like it's no big deal. They're the living embodiment of "it's just a prank, bro" attitude.

I mean, killing anyone is not their end goal but they can still do it accidentally and won't regret it too much if the joke ended up good (by dragon standards).

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Frank "The Senate" Sheev:

Originally posted by Iguanas & Hermit Crabs:

Only chromatic dragons do that the only way you are going to get a metallic dragons to kill you is if you are going to harm them or are really evil

Dunno, copper dragons look like the type that can put you in life-threatening conditions just for fun and then act like it's no big deal. They're the living embodiment of "it's just a prank, bro" attitude.

I mean, killing anyone is not their end goal but they can still do it accidentally and won't regret it too much if the joke ended up good (by dragon standards).

Good point i can see copper dragons doing that but i don't think the other metallic dragons would do that but that's just my own opinion :)

[The Infinity Sock]

Would a dragon disciple lifespan increase or stay the same?

[Grifta]

Mechanically, no. There are a handful of classes that no longer age (no one that I know of gets true immortality), but DD is not one of them.

There are some super rare life extension magic items and elixirs. Other than that, you're looking at something in Mythic Levels (interacting with gods and creatures beyond normal mortal beings), or trying to become a god yourself in the Starstone Trial, which Paizo has not disclosed in 10 years :P

[The Infinity Sock]

Originally posted by Grifta:

Mechanically, no. There are a handful of classes that no longer age (no one that I know of gets true immortality), but DD is not one of them.

There are some super rare life extension magic items and elixirs. Other than that, you're looking at something in Mythic Levels (interacting with gods and creatures beyond normal mortal beings), or trying to become a god yourself in the Starstone Trial, which Paizo has not disclosed in 10 years :P

Ok thinks

[GrandMajora]

I'm going to assume "Mythic" levels are the same thing as "Epic" levels in D&D?